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Pawlenty impresses Iowans on substance; Group backtracks on Huckabee commitment
TheIowaRepublican.com ^ | 2/8/2012 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 02/08/2011 9:14:25 AM PST by bigred08

Tim Pawlenty said all the right things during the inaugural “Presidential Lecture Series” event sponsored by The FAMiLY Leader. A crowd of 150 attendees, plus a dozen media members, gathered at Pella Christian High School early Monday afternoon to listen to the former Minnesota governor. The crowd liked what they heard, but was not blown away by Pawlenty’s delivery.

If elections were won only on substance, Pawlenty would stand a strong chance in the 2012 Iowa Caucus. However, style matters too. Oratorical skills propelled Barack Obama to the White House in 2008. Pawlenty will need to become a more passionate speaker as the campaign moves forward. He possesses an everyman quality that could endear him to caucus goers, but lacks the soaring rhetoric of Obama, folksy humor of Mike Huckabee, and fiery charisma of Chris Christie.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012; ethanol; farmerfathead; huckabee; huckaphoney; ia2012; iowacaucus; mikehuckabee; obama; pawlenty; pawlenty2012; timpawlenty; tpaw; vanderplaats
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To: ExSoldier

I would love for the Governor of Virginia to run. I think he may have the “it” factor as well as the policies. He comes across as presidential, I think, although I’ve only seen him a few times. The American voter votes 1/3 on policy and 2/3 on looks or gravitas or whatever it is. Reagan had “it” big time!!!


41 posted on 02/08/2011 12:17:27 PM PST by ncweaver
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To: bigred08

The Iowa interactive group on Fox last night want Chris Christie but were saying Huckabee because he is actually planning a run.


42 posted on 02/08/2011 12:27:12 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: OldDeckHand
I don't know. It sure doesn't seem like he has any fire in the belly, no passion whatsoever. I don't know if you have to mirror Obama's charisma, but you have to have at least some charisma, to be believable. Pawlenty has none.

Personally, I think we could use a President without passion or "fire in the belly". I think our Republic desperately needs to move away from the mystique and personality cult of the plebiscitary Presidency.

That said, I agree with you that it is probably not a good formula for beating Obama, and beating Obama is the most important thing right now. While I think the voters would appreciate more sober leadership than that offered by Obama, they probably aren't going to go for someone like Pawlenty who has all the flash and sizzle of a UPS truck.
43 posted on 02/08/2011 12:32:58 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight
"While I think the voters would appreciate more sober leadership than that offered by Obama, they probably aren't going to go for someone like Pawlenty who has all the flash and sizzle of a UPS truck."

Yeah, you've got to be at least engaging and nominally compelling. Pawlenty seems to be the guy who's most likely to run the Fred Thompson-like campaign of 2012. Fred would have made a great President, but his campaign was flat and uninspired. That's the kind of campaign I'd expect to see from Pawlenty, and perhaps from Daniels as well.

Personally, I'm a big Bob McDonnell fan. It's just a shame he didn't run for VA governor when Kaine did, instead of four years later. Bob's a earnest and sober guy, but he has just enough charisma to be engaging - kind of like Jim DeMint.

44 posted on 02/08/2011 12:49:54 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Free Vulcan
. . . or is he a stalking horse busting up Huckabee so Huck never gets in the game?

If he accomplishes no more than getting the Huckster out of the race, I think he has a good shot at the #2 spot on the ticket with either Sarah Palin or Herman Cain.

Personally, I find Pawlenty about as inspiring as watching paint dry. But he could very well put three libtard leaning states (Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin) into play.

45 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: The Pack Knight
Well crap, if Trump is pro gun control he's dead meat right out of the gate. No way I'm standing for THAT.
46 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:25 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: Notary Sojac

Fair enough. Let’s hope she does.


47 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:34 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Notary Sojac

You have no ides what you’re talking about.


48 posted on 02/08/2011 1:07:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: The Pack Knight
"Personally, I think we could use a President without passion or 'fire in the belly'"

Didn't Jesus say something like that...

Rev 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
Or was it the opposite?
49 posted on 02/08/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

>> “SHE is also spookily silent on the subject of the corrupt banking sector.” <<

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Silent?

She condemned the “Federal Reserve” system back last spring.


50 posted on 02/08/2011 1:26:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor
Well, it's way off topic, but I can take it there.

I'll start with my granddad who lost a leg in the Philippines, fall of 1944.

Doug MacArthur wanted to wade ashore and tell the newsreels "I have returned"....so we suffered sixty-odd thousand American casualties when it would have been easy to keep the Japs bottled up there.

51 posted on 02/08/2011 1:27:28 PM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: bigred08

Anything that comes from The IowaRINO I take with a truckload of salt.


52 posted on 02/08/2011 1:31:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Is this a Tea Party, like the kind that happened in 1773, or the kind where they serve crumpets?)
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To: MindBender26

>> “Far from Breaking News and all this emphasis on the 2012 Presidential race distracts us from the cause at hand, defeating Obama’s plans for 2011.” <<

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The GOP House leadership has already abandoned any such plans. Ryan and Boehner only plan to cut 58 billion from last year’s budget, and plan to allow the debt ceiling to be raised.

Can you say surrender?
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53 posted on 02/08/2011 1:32:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

Your grandad has filled your head with garbage.

Macarthur was the only voice of common sense. He opposed the formation of the UN, and intended to clear the communists out of east asia.

Truman would have none of it. Truman was responsible foe many of the failures, including in the Plilippines, where he kept a logisstic leash on all operations for no good reason.

TV was used skillfully by the globalists to defeat Mac in ‘52. I watched it, and it made me sick, and I was just a kid.

The anti-Macarthur forces are responsible for the mess in Korea and the rest of asia that we have today.


54 posted on 02/08/2011 1:41:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: ilgipper

I personally think a boring governor may be the best candidate. Contrast substance vs Obama’s bs full. I’d run the campaign against the charisma. Obama’s numbers were lowest during the campaign when McCain’s celebrity ad was out.


55 posted on 02/08/2011 1:42:32 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Darren McCarty

Boring governors are boring because they are not leaders; they’re surrender monkeys and cultural leftists, (Daniels, Pawlenty, etc.)


56 posted on 02/08/2011 1:45:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: The Pack Knight
Donald Trump? He's given more to dumbocrats than republicans. Trumps donations
57 posted on 02/08/2011 1:49:38 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: bigred08

I feel here in the very liberal state of Minnesota, Pawlenty has been about as conservative as he could be and manage to get re-elected.

Corn farmers are a large voting block. Pushing ethanol was a one issue dealbreaker for most of them. The (female)running mate of the DFL opponent for governor made a large gaffe about not knowing what E-85 was. It tipped them into defeat. As it has become obvious in recent years that ethanol production is a losing waste he has shut-up about it. I doubt he would push it any longer.

He also payed lip service to the global warming crowd. He was all for initiatives that sounded good but he always stated he would fight any regulations that would hurt the economy. With the recent revelations about faked data and the -12 degrees below zero temperature this morning he may have adjusted his stance on this also.

These are the only 2 issues I have disagreed with him on in the past. And I don’t think he really believed them himself. He has done an awesome job of keeping spending down and preventing new taxes with one of the most liberal legislatures in the US. He’s pro-life, pro voter ID, toughened up the child predator laws, and calmed everybody down after Jesse Ventura left.

I know he doesn’t speak with fire and brimstone, but he is very non-threatening, easy going, and personable. I think it could be a very stealthy way to get a decent conservative into office.


58 posted on 02/08/2011 1:55:41 PM PST by toast
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To: bigred08

Hannity showed a group of IA republicans last night, asked them who they wanted to see run. As I predicted before that part of the segment ran, they were all over the map.

Some of their observations were good and some of them made absolutely ridiculous remarks, but then that’s people for you..


59 posted on 02/08/2011 2:09:35 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Overweight guy to Moochelle Obama: "Where's Ben's Chili Bowl?")
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To: Free Vulcan

If all he does, is keep Huckabee out...he’s done a huge credit for the GOP & the country!


60 posted on 02/08/2011 2:45:46 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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