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Report: Russia warns US over missile defense plans (Reserves right to withdraw from new START)
AP via KLTV.com ^ | 2/7/2011 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 02/07/2011 8:51:50 AM PST by Qbert

MOSCOW (AP) - Russia sees the planned U.S. missile defense system as a potential threat to its nuclear forces and may review its participation in a landmark nuclear arms treaty, officials said Monday.

The New START deal, the centerpiece of Barack Obama's efforts to reset ties with Russia and the most significant arms control pact in nearly two decades, took effect last week. It limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads, down from the current ceiling of 2,200.

The treaty doesn't prevent the U.S. from building new missile defense systems, but Russia has warned that it reserves the right to withdraw from the treaty if the United States significantly boosts its missile shield.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nukes; obama; russia; starttreaty
So, just give them some more nuke secrets, and keep them happy, Obama?...
1 posted on 02/07/2011 8:51:55 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
So let them withdraw. In fact, we should never have signed this in the first place. Our biggest threat is no longer Russia. Our big threat, radical Islamic nations, are working hard to pursue nuclear weapons.

Obama is a loon.

2 posted on 02/07/2011 8:54:40 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Qbert
Weakness invites aggression and scorn.
3 posted on 02/07/2011 8:56:43 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Snowpalooza 2011)
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To: MEGoody

Actually, this gives a future conservative President a graceful out, without violating the treaty. He just has to crank up missile defense until the Russians decide to withdraw from it.


4 posted on 02/07/2011 8:59:35 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: MEGoody

“So let them withdraw. In fact, we should never have signed this in the first place.”

Yep. And shame on all the RINOs that voted for this (especially Lugar).


5 posted on 02/07/2011 8:59:43 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Qbert

6 posted on 02/07/2011 9:01:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MEGoody

Russia is the major enabler of Iran, which makes it our enemy in my book. Did Barry and the boys already turn over the Trident codes? If so, Russia got what it wanted. HOw many of the Repub Senators who voted for this “treaty” knew about the betrayal of Great Britain?


7 posted on 02/07/2011 9:02:12 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: rightwingcrazy

“Actually, this gives a future conservative President a graceful out, without violating the treaty. He just has to crank up missile defense until the Russians decide to withdraw from it.”

Good point. My fear though is in the short-term: Obama will likely do whatever the Russians want in order to placate them so he can keep boasting about his “victory” in getting this POS treaty passed in the Senate.


8 posted on 02/07/2011 9:04:02 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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This is actually funny.

The idiot in the White House pushed this thing, and already the Russians are blackmmailing him with it.

What a loon, what an idiot.

Ice Cream eating Pansy.


9 posted on 02/07/2011 9:07:33 AM PST by Venturer
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To: MEGoody

Yeh, who cares? Let them withdraw. We never should have ratified that treaty anyway.


10 posted on 02/07/2011 9:08:24 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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The Russian’s must be real morons if they think a missile defense system is a threat to their ballistic missiles.The only way our anti-ballistic missile system could be a threat to the Russian’s is if they intended to attack us with those missiles.

Impersonally think that Russia may be planning on doing just that.Not that it would make much sense,but the Russian’s have a very bad sense of paranoia anyway.It seems like they fear everything.


11 posted on 02/07/2011 9:10:35 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: MEGoody

So I guess we now know how President Palin will get us out of this bad deal in January, 2013.


12 posted on 02/07/2011 9:15:00 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rightwingcrazy

Actually, this gives a future conservative President a graceful out, without violating the treaty. He just has to crank up missile defense until the Russians decide to withdraw from it.


I agree with you. However, by that time there will be no money for increasing missle defense.


13 posted on 02/07/2011 9:19:59 AM PST by unkus
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To: puppypusher

“The Russian’s must be real morons if they think a missile defense system is a threat to their ballistic missiles.The only way our anti-ballistic missile system could be a threat to the Russian’s is if they intended to attack us with those missiles.”

—I think the Russians know exactly what they’re doing here: It would be the ultimate humiliation to Obama if the Russians withdrew shortly after START went into effect over this (something IIRC, experts warned was a major weakness with the treaty).

Obama badly needs this treaty to stand, so he will do whatever he can to keep it in place, and give in to Russian demands. Any idiot that gives up nuke secrets will surely give up even more without hesitation. The Russians will easily win the chess match here.


14 posted on 02/07/2011 9:20:45 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Venturer

Theirs

Ours

Any questions?

15 posted on 02/07/2011 9:22:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: puppypusher
The Russian’s must be real morons if they think a missile defense system is a threat to their ballistic missiles.The only way our anti-ballistic missile system could be a threat to the Russian’s is if they intended to attack us with those missiles.

The propaganda is that missile defense allows an aggressor to launch a first strike against the other side's missiles, and use the defense shield to take out the weaker counter-attack.

In real life, there are two main targets for your missiles: the enemy's missiles, or the enemy's cities and command bunkers. The side initiating a first strike will aim to take out their enemy's missiles, and then be able to threaten the enemy's cities with their remaining missiles.

With missile defense, you can ride out an attack on your missiles, and then the other side is faced with the possibility that you still have all your missiles available for use against their cities. It thus negates any advantage to hitting first -- the advantage goes to the counter-attacker. It thus favors the defender against the aggressor.

That Russia is against it, indicates they have future plans on being the aggressor.

16 posted on 02/07/2011 9:24:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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...Any questions?

not really....
gettin' our @sses thrown (internationally) around b/c
of O'Bozo's / Stupid American Voter's (2008) actions.

17 posted on 02/07/2011 9:43:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. 8^)
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To: Qbert

Question: How is a missile DEFENSE system a “threat” to their nuclear weapons? The missile defense system is useless against missiles that haven’t been fired so unless you have already fired your nuclear missiles, they are perfectly safe.


18 posted on 02/07/2011 9:45:55 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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