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Doctor's orders: Go to Mexico (because she is an illegal immigrant)
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 6, 2011 | Harvey Rice

Posted on 02/07/2011 2:52:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If you were a doctor, how many indigent patients would you treat for free, buying all supplies and hiring anesthesiologists, nurses etc. yourself?


41 posted on 02/07/2011 5:21:45 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Gasshog
Come-One-come-All-to-Uncle-Sugars-Give-A-way-Land............ Where everything is free!!!

The buzz is mexico actually ran newspaper ads on how to get free US housing.....one reason for the sub-prime disaster US taxpayers are saddled with.

42 posted on 02/07/2011 5:25:12 AM PST by Liz
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Even on the battlefield, the triage system ...

...allows severely-wounded-but-theoretically-savable soldiers to die if treating one of them would lead to several others dying due to neglect.

43 posted on 02/07/2011 5:26:00 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The story mentions a Spanish speaking docotor. Does it say he was HER doctor? A Physician’s obligation is limited when the individual is not his/her patient.


44 posted on 02/07/2011 5:26:00 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hooray for UTMB!!!!! First, she was diagnosed. Second, she was treated. Third, her surgery was arranged for and scheduled in a Mexican hospital. Seems to me she was teated fairly and appropriately. It’s just too bad Ben Taub stepped in. There’s no way Ben Taub can do that surgery since they are a blood and guts trauma hospital. So, the chick probably got turfed off to another hospital connected with either UT or Baylor.


45 posted on 02/07/2011 5:31:15 AM PST by Repulican Donkey
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The patient was treated. She suffered no harm. The analogy with combat soldiers is lame to the point of laughable. This dame shopped five hospitals - FIVE HOSPITALS - trying to find a free ride, so who was actually delaying treatment?


46 posted on 02/07/2011 5:35:29 AM PST by Repulican Donkey
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They expect the doctor, nurses and hospital staff to work for free?

They expect the hospital to give them medicine, supplies, care and bed space for free?

When she recovers will she come and scrub our toilets for free?

Will her husband come and do our lawns for free?


47 posted on 02/07/2011 5:43:01 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Her life was not at risk at that moment. She had time to get appropriate treatment from wherever. If one of us would have been visiting anywhere in the US and went to the ER to address our symptoms....we would logically return to our home city, contact our doc, then set up the appropriate specialists to address these symptoms.

They went to an ER, because ER’s are required to see people, regardless, free of charge. That hospital sent the patient to the next hospital. There was no emergency at that time. She was to be seen to address the problem and plan the best approach to deal with this health issue. This was done.

Hospitals are obliged in ER’s, but are NOT obliged for extended medical treatment. This family could apply to a charity or medicaid....and probably they did. Or...go home to Mexico.


48 posted on 02/07/2011 6:00:54 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve been hearing for YEARS that no one can be turned away from a hospital emergency room.

But a friend of mine who now has no insurance did go to emergency. She told them she could “private pay”, but that she had no insurance, and was given second-rate treatment the whole time there. At each step, they told her they couldn’t do more because she had no insurance. She couldn’t even get an xray!

She does not look like a minority in any way, nor does she have an ethnic sounding name. Do you have to actually present yourself as an illegal to get help?


49 posted on 02/07/2011 6:13:07 AM PST by Joann37
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To: Dudoight

This is why Texas has a multi-billion dollar deficit. We have kids crossing the border to be educated by Texas taxpayers. We have illegals crossing the border to be handled through our health system. We allow illegals in Texas to have in-state tuition.

We cannot afford this any more. They are stealing out of my pocket and your pocket. If someone wants to step up and pay for this lady’s illness as a charitable item, great. Just don’t ask me to cough up my tax dollars to do so.


50 posted on 02/07/2011 6:14:50 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Liz

Going to five hospitals and three clinics had to take some time. You just don’t call an oncology dept and get an appointment that day. It may take weeks or months to get in so instead of getting care in her own country, she ignores the doctor and seeks more welfare here to the tune of possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Nice.


51 posted on 02/07/2011 6:19:06 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I think this was a gross violation of medical ethics. The health of the patient is supposed to be the sole priority for a doctor, anything else is of a secondary concern or for other people to worry about...

Right! Doctors should be forced to care for the sick at no cost. In fact, we should draft 10% of those turning 18 each year and have them work as doctors in a nationalized free healthcare systems receiving only a living wage.

52 posted on 02/07/2011 6:24:07 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Liz

Come-One-come-All-to-Uncle-Sugars-Give-A-way-Land............ Where everything is free!!!
The buzz is mexico actually ran newspaper ads on how to get free US housing.....

The Mexican government actually printed pamphlets on how to get welfare, med care, foodstamps, basically everything free from the US once they crossed over the border. I am thinking about 10% of their population resides in the US so it is beneficial for their government to keep their people here so they don’t have to pay for them.


53 posted on 02/07/2011 6:26:33 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“They treated us like animals, like dogs or something,”

I'm sympathetic to her condition...but I've always had to pay cash for veterinary care.

54 posted on 02/07/2011 6:31:25 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (I've lost my tag line.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I agree, that doctors are our slaves, and have no legal right to not work for someone or treat someone because they cannot pay and have no right to be here.

We can force anyone to do anything for us because the patient was less financially healthy than the Doctor.

Doctors must work for us for FREE! They took an oath to be slaves! /s

Who is John Galt?


55 posted on 02/07/2011 6:42:08 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Respectfully, I'd like to know where you would draw the line? According to the article, she was told to seek medical attention in her home Country. If she would have done so, there was no threat. Per the article, “The longer the delay, the more loss of function she is likely to get,” said Dr. Bill Nealon, a former UTMB general surgeon now at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tenn. Medical records describe a nonmalignant but potentially life-threatening tumor.”

Potentially (I could potentially be hit by a truck today - that kind of “potentially”).......I see no gross violation, I see a doctor who did what he should have done. If hospitals continue to treat illegals with no chance at recovering the costs of said treatments, how long can they continue to treat ANYONE? (illegal or not) Call me selfish but I'd prefer they run my local hospital with enough fiscal responsibility that it will still be around should I (an AMERICAN) ever need it.

Perhaps you're okay with funding health care for anyone who swims, crawls, catapults or slithers across our borders but if you want to subsidize health care for others, why not concentrate on poor AMERICANS? The more we do for these people, the more they write and call home for their relatives to come over and get some too.

“anything else is of a secondary concern or for other people to worry about...”

Perhaps those “other people” worried enough about it that they had a discussion with the doctors that went something like this, “We can no longer afford to treat non-emergency illegal alien patients AND pay your salaries....something’s gotta give.” P.S. - You fell for the anchor baby picture - hook, line and sinker - didn't you? That's okay, that's what the author intended when they slipped it in there.

56 posted on 02/07/2011 6:49:11 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Liz; Condor51
"...look for a lawsuit on the horizon with lawyers supplied by the mexican govt......."

You're kidding, right?

Silly you. The lawyers will be SUPPLIED BY OUR GOVERNMENT!!!

57 posted on 02/07/2011 6:55:56 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Liz

Get yo crazy check fo yo keeds!


58 posted on 02/07/2011 7:23:25 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Doctors are forbidden by their hippocratic oath from engaging in behaviour that prejudices or harms the patient.
__________________________________________

“Doctors are forbidden by their hippocratic oath from” giving anything to a pregnant woman that will cause her to lose her unborn child...

Tell us about that one...


59 posted on 02/07/2011 7:28:13 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Medical ethics state that the treatment of the patient is paramount. This is a violation of that.

If a tenet of medical ethics says that a hospital must permit itself to go bankrupt (thus ending any ability to treat ANY patient), then that tenet must be ignored.

If you feel so strongly about it, then YOU pay the bills.

60 posted on 02/07/2011 7:34:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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