[BigSkyFreeper]

And both he [Abercrombie] and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms.

Right, it's a convenient distraction to the bigger issues facing an entire nation.

[Just mythoughts]

And both he and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms.

The 'real' thumping BamBam got will not bear fruit unless or until these Republican wins across the '57' states pass legislation requiring any and all candidates to provide legitimate documentation of eligibility.... Then the pigs will really squeal 'conspiracy'.

[Red Steel]

Some good comments from this poster from the website about this article:

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"Posted by: Tav  

Feb 06, 02:33 AM

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"And both he and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms"

And you "know" this astounding counter-intuitive claim to be true, just how again? From your time working as the apprentice of Madam Zelda, the mind reading Gypsy? In case you somehow had not noticed, there is a whole plethora of things that have shifted political discussion away from the "thumping" Obama took in the elections of 3 some months ago. Things had shifted before Abercrombie had even bragged that he would find proof and present proof that Obama was born in Hawaii (i.e. Obama's Birth Certificate). What would you be saying if Abercrombie had found and presented an Obama Birth Certificate? That both he and Obama were heart broken? If it's hot, it's global warming; if it's cold, it's global warming. This is Al Gore level balderdash.

"It should be no surprise that Abercrombie is doing everything he can to increase the visibility of birtherism in the run-up to the 2012 elections. "

Actually Abercrombie seems to have gone rather silent now. But in any case, I heard this very same double-think spin nonsense during the run-up to the 2010 elections (that would be the elections YOU spoke of earlier) and about how it would help, and help big time, Obama and Democrats in that election. How did that work out for them again? "

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Andrew Walden edits HawaiiFreePress.com.

So the author is a propagandist from Hawaii.

[Berlin_Freeper]

A load of BS.

[missnry]

Actually I think Abercommie drank Obama's Fool-Aid. He probably also read Barry's autofictionography and believes in his heart all that Barry wrote -er had written about himself.

This is pure and simple Abercommie is like those in the media. They have been reading their own press and actually believe what they have written for these past two years. Deep down in their heart they know Barry Soetoro is hiding something now. As Barry destroys the Democrat party they are going to be looking for anyway to jettison him VERY SOON!

The facts that remain... Barry has told us he has a KENYAN father. He is also afraid to release the document that reveals his hospital of birth and the doctor who delivered him! Those facts are indisputable.

[trumandogz]

“Berg is a prominent 9-11 truther who sued the Bush administration several times in an effort to prove that al-Qaeda was innocent. Another prominent Birther lawyer, Orly Taitz, is a $1,000 donor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee. Her website has prominently featured the rants of 9-11 truther Devvy Kidd.”

Nice.

[PA-RIVER]

Yes, quite a distraction. And Soebarkah has transformed into a freedom lover and wants us all to experience the American dream of capitalism. And January turned into February, All under cover of the indispensable Birther distraction.

[opentalk]

The Author is in denial

Abercombie did not help Obama.

He actually brought to light how unprofessional Obama and his cronies are. Plus helped prompt many states to start drafting legislation to make sure this does not happen again.

[wintertime]

This is just toying. He [Obama] knows that the birthers are a bunch of Looney Tune kook right-wingers, and he wants them illustrated as such. So he'll toy with them, sort of like Charlie Brown and Lucy and the football. ( Rush Limbaugh)( from the article)

Someone who would use this eligibility issue as a political joke pulls wings off flies just to see them squirm.

A decorated war veteran and respected officer of 18 years sits in prison because Obama would not release **COMMON** documents. Major Cook lost his security clearance and his job for the same reason.

Obama sent TAX PAID attorneys across the U.S. to prevent the release of documents that American serfs provide for Little League. Obama wasted the resources of these TAX PAID attorneys and our TAX PAID courts at a time when plots were being laid to BOMB Times Square and a Pittsburgh marathon, blow a passenger plane out of the sky over Detroit, and KILL our soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers.

It is EASY to prove one's natural born citizenship. For under a $100 and a nod of his head to his secretary all this could have been completely resolved.

If Obama considers this funny then I strongly suspect he pokes the eyes out of kittens for laugh.

[DouglasKC]

The article makes no sense. It mocks and says that a "paltry" 11% are "birthers". So if it's only 11% then why, if you believe the theory, is Obama and his minions spending so much time and effort to promote it? You would figure that IF there were a birth certificate that somebody, anybody, could have gotten it out there by now despite the bureaucratic law against doing so. I'm sure that an authentic copy of a long form certificate could fetch a very handsome price on the open market....more than enough to make up for any fines that an employee of Hawaii might get IF they even get caught.

No, it just makes no sense as a political ploy. It makes more sense that there really is a problem considering the vehement way they even oppose having states enact basic eligibility requirements.

[Lee'sGhost]

Walden, AlphPundit and Rush are all wrong. Abercrombie, in this case, was a complete duffass. He was SO sure he knew what he didn’t know that he stuck his neck out before he looked for documentation. Any benefit obtained as a result is purely by accident.

Walden also suggests that the masses cannot walk and chew gun at the same time. The idea that this is a grand slight of hand that distracts everyone from the real Obama failures is just nonsense. On the other hand, the lib media is more than happy to do more stories about “idiot birthers” so that they don’t have to report on Obamalini.

[newzjunkey]

The whole "birther" thing is about manipulation.

Obama, if he wanted, could resolve the situation tomorrow but what's in it for him politically? Nothing. The "birther" movement provide a great puppet for political theater. "Birthers" are his "vast right wing conspiracy."

Those concerned about a president being, you know, constitutionally qualified should ignore Obama and focus on states requiring documentation from candidates ahead of the next election cycle.

[ml/nj]

My reaction is "Not the briar patch."

If Obama is clever enough to have FOR YEARS, obscured everything about his past and, in fact, invented his past, so as to trap folks like moi, then I consider myself trapped.

When he was talking about 57 States and "breathalyzers," he showed everyone just how clever he is. Think about Obama in comparison to Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was clever. Barack Obama is stupid.

People like Abercrombie and others are just doing whatever they might think is best to save Obama and their party given the difficult circumstances they find themselves in, but that doesn't make them brain surgeons.

ML/NJ

[WilliamofCarmichael]

[1960s Marxist-Alinsky radical Abercrombie] has spent a lifetime in politics manipulating conservatives to unwittingly serve his agenda -- and he's proud of it. . . a self-described Abercrombie friend, celebrity gossip reporter Mike Evans, on January 20 suddenly claimed that Abercrombie had told him that there are no records of Obama's birth. Birthers nationwide bit down hard on the story. Then, just as suddenly, Evans reversed himself and admitted that he made the whole thing up. [My emphasis]

This "Hee, hee. Obama and his followers are leading them dumbass birthers down the path" stuff kinda reminds me of Josh Steiner and the Congressional hearings on Whitewater and the savings and loan debacle..

Mr. Joshua Steiner at the time an official in the Treasury Dept. had turned over his diary that detailed the goings on vis-a-vis the Resolution Trust Corporation's investigation into Whitewater and the interference by the Clintons, et al.

Out of the Senate hearings was expected to come: "We got 'em! We got proof against the Clintons!?

Not so fast, Charlie Brown. "Lucy" just told the Senate committee that he lied to his diary (I'll never forget the look of Delaware Democrat Senator Sarbanes' face as Steiner repudiated his diary). The Democrat Senators did not like being lied to.. but hey! They're Democrats.. Clintons are Democrats.. Steiner is a Democrat. Case dismissed.

Barely a peep out of the Republicans.. but hey! they're Repbulicans . . .

IOW who's the fool? The birthers or the critics from the right who appear to buy anything the Obama supporters say vis-a-vis birth certificates.

To wit, Birthers [will] never be satisfied no matter what document is finally presented.

I don't think so.

I think the natural born issue should be decided but I say let the Congress or the courts decide.. for me personally there just one issue, release the long form b.c. I have had to to it several times! Why can the arrogant, ruling class jerk do it?

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

[Radix]

Just show the thing, period.

The 57 states need to make it a requirement anyhow, and it always should have been necessary to provide Constitutionally required evidence of eligibility to get your name on the ballot.

They put the rules in there in the first place for a reason.

Shockeroo, the state governments as are the Feds remiss in their obligations.

[Seizethecarp]

I just googled “Abercrombie ‘long form’” and got 262,000 results.

This means that thanks to Abercrombie, 262,000 links are up on Google all reinforcing to the voters that:

1. The COLB short form is not an original birth document.

2. Obama has not shown a contemporaneous 1961 HI long form or other contemporaneous vital record that confirms an HI birth.

3. Obama himself, by refusing to release his 1961 HI vital records, is solely responsible for lingering questions and not the so-called “birthers”.

This cannot be helping Obama.

[FreeAtlanta]

I betcha Andrew Walden also thinks Sarah Palin is unelectable.