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67% of Americans Are Dissatisfied With The Size And Influence Of Major Corporations
The Economic Collapse ^ | 02/04/2011 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 02/04/2011 7:58:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The American people are becoming increasingly angry about the extraordinary amount of power and influence that corporations have in the United States today. A new Gallup poll found that 67 percent of Americans are dissatisfied with the size and influence of major corporations in the United States today. Not only that, the most recent Chicago Booth/Kellogg School Financial Trust Index found that only 26 percent of Americans trust our financial system at this point. The mainstream media is acting as if this is a new phenomenon, but the truth is that a dislike of giant corporations goes all the way back to the founding of this nation. Our founders held a deep distrust for all big concentrations of power, and they intended to set up a nation where no one person or no one institution could become too powerful.

Unfortunately, we have very much strayed from those principles. In the United States today, the federal government completely dominates all other levels of government and mammoth international corporations completely dominate our economy.

If our founding fathers could see what is going on today they would probably roll over in their graves.

The history of the corporation can be traced back to the early part of the 17th century when Queen Elizabeth I established the East India Trading Company.

Our founders were not too fond of the East India Trading Company. In fact, it was their tea that was dumped into the harbor during the original Boston Tea Party.

In his book entitled "Unequal Protection", Thom Hartman described the great antipathy that our founders had for the East India Trading Company....

"Trade-dominance by the East India Company aroused the greatest passions of America’s Founders – every schoolboy knows how they dumped the Company’s tea into Boston harbour. At the time in Britain virtually all members of parliament were stockholders, a tenth had made their fortunes through the Company, and the Company funded parliamentary elections generously."

So a disgust for great concentrations of financial power is built into our national DNA.

Many people today think of giant international corporations as being synonymous with "capitalism", but that is just not the case.

Our founders envisioned a land where free enterprise could flourish in an environment where no institution held too much power.

So this false left/right debate about whether we should give more power to the government or more power to the corporations is largely a bunch of nonsense.

If the founders were around today they would say that we need to take a lot of power away from both of them.

Fortunately, it looks like the American people are starting to think the same thing. Not only are the American people dissatisfied with government, they are also becoming increasingly dissatisfied with big corporations.

As mentioned above, according to Gallup two-thirds of Americans are now dissatisfied with the size and influence of major corporations in America today....

As you can see, the gap between those in favor of the size and influence of major corporations and those not in favor has been significantly widening over the past decade.

That is a good thing.

Not only that, but the latest Chicago Booth/Kellogg School Financial Trust Index shows that Americans have very little trust in the financial system at this point.

The following are some of the key findings from their most recent report....

*Only 26 percent of Americans trust the nation's financial system.

*Only 13 percent of Americans trust big corporations.

*Only 16 percent of Americans trust the stock market.

*Only 43 percent of Americans trust the banks.

These numbers are staggering, but they should not be surprising. The American people were not pleased at all when the major banks and big financial institutions were showered with bailouts during the recent financial crisis. A lot of that anger is still simmering.

The recent housing collapse, which is still ongoing, was caused in great part by the behavior of the major banks and big financial institutions, but it is the American people which have suffered the most from it. The following very brief animation from Taiwan demonstrates this very humorously....

The American people are still wondering where their "bailouts" are. Most of the big banks and big corporations seem to be thriving even while the number of Americans slipping into poverty continues to grow.

According to Calculated Risk, approximately 15 million Americans are unemployed, about 9 million Americans are working part-time for "economic reasons" and approximately 4 million American workers have left the labor force since the beginning of the economic downturn.

When you total that all up, you get 28 million Americans that wish they had full-time jobs.

Ouch.

There are other numbers that are very disturbing as well. In the month of November, the number of people on food stamps set another new all-time record: 43.6 million Americans.

So we have tens of millions of Americans that can't get the jobs that they want and we have tens of millions of Americans that can't feed themselves without government assistance.

No wonder so many people are angry at the big corporations!

The U.S. government has showered the big corporations and the big banks with bailouts, tax breaks and cheap loans and yet the big corporations and the big banks are not coming through for the American people.

Meanwhile, food prices continue to go up. According to the United Nations food agency, global food prices set another new all-time record during the month of January, and they are expected to continue rising for months to come.

That certainly is not going to ease tensions in the Middle East and elsewhere around the world. When people are not able to pay for the food that they need that tends to make them very, very angry.

For now we are not likely to see food riots in the United States, but as food prices rise all of those food stamp cards are not going to go as far as they used to. Average American families are going to feel more strain at the supermarket. There will be less money available for other things.

A key indicator to watch is the price of oil. The price of oil is one of the key components of the price of food, and if we see the price of oil go up to $120 or $150 a barrel that could mean really bad things for both the U.S. economy and the overall global economy.

If we do see another financial crisis like we did in 2008, is the U.S. government going to rush to bail out the big corporations and the big banks like they did the last time?

As we have seen from the numbers above, that certainly would not sit well with the American people.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corporatesocialism; corporations; cronycapitalism; influence; size
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To: SeekAndFind
When will people realize that big government is a heck of a lot more scarey than big business? Oh, that's right. Never, because big business doesn't hand out goodies like the government does.

:::sigh:::

41 posted on 02/04/2011 8:58:35 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok then folks, don’t shop at Walmart. Sheesh!

OTOH, many corporations have found that sucking on the federal teat is simpler than competing. So I sympathize in a certain way.


42 posted on 02/04/2011 9:00:57 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: The_Reader_David
"I have no objection to any non-state institution on the basis of size or influence, per se. I do object to any institution... which is run by people who use fiduciary positions for the benefit of their own wealth and power, rather than for the benefit of the shareholders, workers, citizens, faculty*, faithful, or intended beneficiaries of other sorts of non-profits.

Might as well stipulate that you "have no objection to foxes per se. only to any hen-house run by foxes who eat the chickens to satisfy their appetites, rather than operating the hen-houses for the benefit of the chickens..."

It's the nature of large, bureaucratic organizations to act in their own interests to the detriment of the larger society, and of the sorts of people who rise to power within them to "use fiduciary positions for the benefit of their own wealth and power."

43 posted on 02/04/2011 9:01:22 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Frantzie

Agreed. My problem also is with the crony capitalism, not the big companies. Until recent years Microsoft had the smallest of lobbying presences in DC. They are much bigger their now after being pursued by government sharks.


44 posted on 02/04/2011 9:09:50 AM PST by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no problem at all with the size of corporations operating completely within the free market.

It’s the unholy alliance between corporations and government that I have issues with. In a free capitalist society, no corporation, whatever its size, would have any more or less standing before the government than any private citizen.

Even issues that, on the surface, appear unrelated, are often favors given to big corporations in exchange for campaign donations. Environmental laws, for example: before construction can take place, environmental impact studies must be done. Often, despite the studies, groups such as the Sierra Club litigate against the prospective builder—resulting in huge costs to build before the first bulldozer is even brought on site to begin leveling the land. How can a small entrepreneur even begin to compete in such a situation?

And, yes, the Sierra Club and its ilk are just as much big corporations as GE or Enron.


45 posted on 02/04/2011 9:10:36 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am afraid the table is being set for the return of Ross Perot. Not the Little General personally, but another similar candidate who will be rerunning the William Jennings Bryan campaigns. If the economy stays mired in this much longer, while the news media continues to headline corporate profits and banker bonuses, there’s going to be an emotional backlash to drive an economic populist into the race. Probably what Barry is counting on so he can slink into a second term on a 38% plurality.


46 posted on 02/04/2011 9:12:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Frantzie
So is TV - ALL Of TV.

Frantzie finally gets to his on trick pony bottom line.

47 posted on 02/04/2011 9:15:28 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Corporate Socialism / “Too Big To Fail” bump for later....


48 posted on 02/04/2011 9:23:33 AM PST by indthkr
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Yes, yes, but once upon a time, actually when it was first uttered and Jay Gould was vilified for saying it, the continuation of “The public be d*mned,” was “I work for my shareholders!” Now, it seems to be, “and the shareholders be d*mned, too. I got mine!”

Fiduciaries are paid to benefit the interests of that over which they hold fiduciary responsibility, not run it into the ground for their own gain.


49 posted on 02/04/2011 9:38:25 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unintended consequence of a "progressive" income tax -

Those that pay taxes (the rich and the corporations) have the power and the influence because they PAY for it.

50 posted on 02/04/2011 9:48:42 AM PST by Species8472 ( Politically motivated science is called propaganda)
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To: The_Reader_David
Yes, yes, but once upon a time, actually when it was first uttered and Jay Gould was vilified for saying it, the continuation of “The public be d*mned,” was “I work for my shareholders!” Now, it seems to be, “and the shareholders be d*mned, too. I got mine!”

Uh... Jay Gould was a notorious stock "operator", perfectly willing for other stockholders in enterprises in which he had taken a stake to take a beating when it was to his advantage.

OTOH, judging by the recent corporate profit levels, the current management of large American Corporations are doing quite wie by their shareholders.

Whether the means by which this is being accomplished are in the long-term national interest is another questions entirely.

51 posted on 02/04/2011 10:05:58 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: SeekAndFind
Evil is not in corporations or government or religions or charities it is in the word BIG.

Once an entity gets big it attempts to exert more influence than it is entitled to have.

Millions of people have died because of big religion, big government, big corporations.

I am a dyed in the wool capitalist but everything has reasonable limits that when exceeded become evil.

Take anything to an extreme any you will find bad things happen.

Unions were needed but became too big.

Water is needed to survive but too much causes flooding.

Oxygen is need to breath but increase the percentage in the atmosphere and fires would be uncontrollable.

Religion should be good and benign yet left to grow into huge institutions the evil can be seen by everyone.

Even such noble organizations like the Foundation for the Deaf turned evil when they tried to stop children from receiving operations to restore their hearing less they be deprived of the their deaf heritage. WTF is deaf heritage?

52 posted on 02/04/2011 10:07:08 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I bet the Free Trade Communists do not like our Founding Fathers after reading this....and yes, our Founding Fathers were not thrilled the big corporation (many of our Founding Fathers were self-made wealthy, with their own independent enterprises)

The problem with most corporations, especially Multi-National Corporations....is that they are SOCIALIST. Many take direct tax dollars from governments (Farm Bills, TARP, Bailouts, USAID)...and many others pay govt for special rights and priviledges. Of course, those who push Free Trade Communism have even more socialist protection (USAID, again...WTO, NAFTA, UN, by-passing US courts)

I can’t wait to read some of the posts on this thread and see how many will whine that “this writer is a liberal”. Read the article...this guy calls out both big govt and big corporations


53 posted on 02/04/2011 10:09:58 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Al Gore supports Free Trade and Cap And Trade....Wny do Free Traders believe Al Gore?)
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To: tx_eggman

Hey old man - go warm those eggs up.


54 posted on 02/04/2011 10:11:49 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Wurlitzer

RE: I am a dyed in the wool capitalist but everything has reasonable limits that when exceeded become evil.


This brings upo the question ...

How would we know if a company’s size is on the threshold of “reasonable limits”?

And if we can answer the above, how do we scale the limit back to what is “reasonable”?


55 posted on 02/04/2011 10:19:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You pose a great question SeakAndFind. It would seem to be much easier to spot an over sized anything after it has exerted undo influence so it might require a reactive approach rather than a pro-active approach.

The fact remains, very few entities remain a positive influence on society as they become larger.

We know the founders designed a LIMITED government but no percentage of government vs private sector.

There are limits on media outlet ownership in a given market.

There are monopoly limits on business but not on government. Maybe that would be a starting point.


56 posted on 02/04/2011 10:27:05 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s okay with you that they have gone socialist and are shaking down the treasury for the Keynan’s favored treatment? Goverment Electric, Government Motors, Government McDonalds Hamburgers, Government Banksters, government Google...?

We need to tackle the whole corrupt, rotten mess in power and make CEO’s as sorry they went fascist on our country as we make the politicans sorry they violated the constitution. No wonder Americans are angry. These people’s “free market” crap is a lie.


57 posted on 02/04/2011 11:59:43 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Horsecrap.

Stop big government, stop the problem.

Anything else is crap. And you seem to have some to sell, newb.

/johnny

58 posted on 02/04/2011 12:05:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You keep telling yourself that, oldster.


59 posted on 02/04/2011 12:06:44 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind
The history of the corporation can be traced back to the early part of the 17th century when Queen Elizabeth I established the East India Trading Company.

Our founders were not too fond of the East India Trading Company. In fact, it was their tea that was dumped into the harbor during the original Boston Tea Party.

In his book entitled "Unequal Protection", Thom Hartman described the great antipathy that our founders had for the East India Trading Company....

The above represents an example of how the writers who tell numerous half truths tell numerous complete lies by doing so.

Actually the history of companies (organizations of individuals who got together to run a business, and were recognized as such a unit) goes back to ancient Rome and the Maurya Empire in ancient India. The alleged oldest commercial corporation in the world, the Stora Kopparberg mining community in Falun, Sweden, obtained a charter from King Magnus Eriksson in 1347. [All well before the 17th century and the East India Trading Company].

The East India Trading Company was not just any company, it was a particular corporation with a particular pedigree - "approved by the Crown" and founded for purposes that would not only suit its investors but would serve the Crown.

The founders did not reject the idea of "corporations", they rejected the Mercantile system of the crown heads of European, the system that Crown corporations like the East India Trading Company were very much a part of.

The modern corporation has a very different pedigree, which stems from that rejection of mercantilism and a succession of laws in the early 1800s, around the world, in which corporations transitioned from being government or guild affiliated entities to being public and private economic entities. "Incorporation" became less a specific grant of the rulers and more simply following the rules of incorporation established by legislation.

Regardless of the pedigree, the essentials of "incorporation" was to affect the continuation of the entity - the organized and recognized unit - without interruption, beyond the deaths of any of its several "owners", whether they be partners or shareholders.

"So a disgust for great concentrations of financial power is built into our national DNA.",

No. A "disgust for great concentrations of financial power [commercial enterprise in the hands of government] was "built into our DNA"

"These numbers are staggering, but they should not be surprising. The American people were not pleased at all when the major banks and big financial institutions were showered with bailouts during the recent financial crisis.

While the methods employed were seen as "bailing out the banks", which those methods did do, the purposes were much broader and more systemic to the financial system itself and the economy.

"Bailing out the banks",

(1)underwrote some base line of invested wealth that millions of shareholders held in financial corporations, as individuals, in mutual funds and pension funds and other corporations - which had individual and institutional shareholders as well;

(2)preserved the 'insured savings' of regular savings accounts held in those banks, without additional and separate FDIC "bail outs" to do the same;

(3)slowed the "mark to market" decline of many forms of invested wealth derived from mortgages, so that time and eventual market forces could sort the values out without immediate full scale collapse of all those values.

Yes, some banks were kept in existence by the "bailouts" and without those bailouts they and their shareholders could, possibly, have been wiped out - and maybe deservedly so - and taken allot more with them as well.

Most of the big banks and big corporations seem to be thriving even while the number of Americans slipping into poverty continues to grow.

So lets all hope and pray that "the big banks" NOT THRIVE, and all their employees and all their individual and institutional (mutual fund, pension fund) shareholders, and all the businesses who serve them ALSO NOT THRIVE as a result. /sarc

The U.S. government has showered the big corporations and the big banks with bailouts, tax breaks and cheap loans and yet the big corporations and the big banks are not coming through for the American people.

So: (a)NO ONE can buy a home (mortgages), (b)NO ONE is buying any cars (car loans), (c) NO NEW bank credit cards are being issued, (d) Macy's, Target, Sears, etc., etc. are not issuing any new credit cards (underwritten by banks), (e) NO business of any kind can borrow any money, (f) etc., etc. etc. All true? No, all NOT true.

While there are many reasons to fault many things that some banks, the bank regulators, the Congress and the Federal Reserve have done, leading into and since the "financial crisis", the authors of the screed that begins this thread simply perpetuate myths about this nation, capitalism, free enterprise and corporations.

That's easy to do when there is so much populist angst to be used to take off into those myths.

60 posted on 02/04/2011 2:03:04 PM PST by Wuli
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