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Egyptians Turning on Each Other (EGYPT LIVE THREAD # 2)
FOX NEWS ^ | 2 February 2011

Posted on 02/02/2011 7:31:01 AM PST by SE Mom

URGENT: Gunfire heard in Cairo's Tahrir Square as supporters of President Mubarak and anti-government demonstrators clash hours after the embattled leader defiantly said he would serve out his term in office.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 300dead; acoopergobsmacked; bedouins; cairo; camels; egypt; husseinobama; injuredjournos; israel; mb; molotovcocktails; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; obamasfault; tahrirsquare
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To: SE Mom

I read that piece yesterday. It’s FANTASTIC.

Don’t doubt for a minute that the Muslim Brotherhood is evil. Islam at its peak performance. WRONG for the world.

But also don’t doubt that the Egyptians will be a bigger challenge to the MB than even *I* thought. It’s going to take the most masterful deceit and evil the Brotherhood can muster.

Maybe that’s just me being hopeful, all things considered. But I’m usually a major anti-Islam pessimist, so there may be something to my assessment. Who knows?

Now that we’re through the nail biting period, it’s time to get focused on our own country again. Let’s get our act together before WE need a Tahrir Square.


1,101 posted on 02/04/2011 5:29:06 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: SE Mom

Morning SE Mom, thanks for that post.

Very concerning indeed. People are becoming more aware of what is at stake here.


1,102 posted on 02/04/2011 5:30:33 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HushTX

Agreed :) I’ praying you’re correct, while keeping my cynical views somewhat in check!


1,103 posted on 02/04/2011 5:32:31 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom; All

You just keep pinging away. It’s been very helpful having our own “Egyptian Walmart,” one stop shopping for all our Egypt news needs. Thanks to those of you that allow me to get all the news in one place quickly (usually by BlackBerry in an elevator).


1,104 posted on 02/04/2011 5:39:26 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan; All

1332: The BBC’s Khaled Ezzelarab reports there has been a stone-throwing clash between protesters in Tahrir Square. Meanwhile, the BBC’s Islam Saad says around 2000 supporters of Mr Mubarak have joined the Mustafa Mahmoud Square demo. He says: “They are waving Egyptian flags and chanting: ‘Yes to Mubarak, yes to stability. 30 years of peace.’”

1329: From the BBC’s Mark Georgiou in Cairo: “State TV has a split screen showing live shots of a pro-Mubarak rally on one side and the scene in Tahrir Square on the other. They describe the first as pro-stability and pro-dialogue and the latter as demanding political reforms. So, at the moment the two sides are busy with their separate rallies. The Tahrir Square crowd aren’t going anywhere. Across town Mubarak’s supporters are gathering.

1325: Al Jazeera’s Evan Hill tweets: “Talaat harb square east of tahrir is chaos now but the barricade itself not under attack, the fighting is in the street.”


1,105 posted on 02/04/2011 5:41:47 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

psa563: Heh! RT @Bronyr: RT @InGodIDoTrust

Millions of Egyptians now chanting: “Obama must step down!” #tcot #gop #foxnews #egypt

ME: (OK O, we’re waiting)


1,106 posted on 02/04/2011 5:45:47 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Now THERE’S a resignation I’d support with real enthusiasm!!!


1,107 posted on 02/04/2011 5:47:28 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All

General Secretary of the NDP Ibrahim Kamil is saying “enough is enough”...says Egypt has been betrayed by the West...says there is a huge silent majority behind Mubarak...it is not in the best interest of the West to lose 82 million Egyptians...

He is not a happy man.


1,108 posted on 02/04/2011 5:55:38 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

lol, Egyptian State TV, they are showing pics of the bridge and saying, we cant see any demonstrations anywhere.

totally delusional.


1,109 posted on 02/04/2011 6:07:54 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SE Mom

Exactly, we are not hearing from the silent majority.

TheNewsBlotter: /@HalaGorani:

Just interviewed Egyptian FM Ahmed Abdul Gheit: told me President Mubarak will not leave, will die on Egyptian soil. #Egypt


1,110 posted on 02/04/2011 6:11:52 AM PST by HollyB
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To: sunmars

Honest to GOD it would have been better if The One had just said- look we’re in close contact with our friends in Egypt and are discussing possibilities for the future etc...

Now it looks like a standoff between Mubarak and Obama.


1,111 posted on 02/04/2011 6:19:31 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom; All
Good Morning Everyone, maybe (smile). Mom, no offense intended for including All in the To: line. (A salute to you, Mom, and your Son).

Read full article and comments. my opinion .... when reading the article I came to "Gulp" (Kirsten Powers quote), and this was where I nodded my head, and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. Reading the comments, I wanted to think about each one carefully. There were (imho) great opinions and not so great opinions. What did not surprise me is, there is a stand that all are taking who have an opinion, and lines are being drawn in the proverbial sand. This actually is not a thing of worry to me. Now I know someone will ask me the question of what is. To be clear, I am a God fearing Conservative. I am not always correct, I am a human, just as all here on this (God created) planet on which we live are. I do not have all the solutions, and God moves in a mysterious way. Which I am comforted by. I simply am speaking for myself, and nobody else, because each of us has an opinion. What would this world be without opinions? Let me stop here, please, there is so much to do, which is good. And pardon me please, if I should sound excited, for I am not.

1,112 posted on 02/04/2011 6:19:54 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: All

Well, that’s it, then...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2668535/posts

Iran’s Khamenei calls for Islamic regime in Egypt
afp ^ | 2/2/11 | by Hiedeh Farmani

Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 7:20:39 AM by Flavius

Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday called for an Islamic regime to be installed in Egypt, saying the wave of Arab revolts is an “earthquake” triggered by the 1979 Iranian revolution.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


1,113 posted on 02/04/2011 6:23:32 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SE Mom

It just occurred to me. The Arab world is calling this Egypt’s ‘Day of Hegira’(Hijra)?


1,114 posted on 02/04/2011 6:25:36 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SE Mom

Oh yeah, he is sitting on the fence and most times, you sit on the fence, both sides fire at you in the crossfire and you end up getting impaled on the fence.

he is a total amateur, the protestors hate him, the egyptian Govt hate him, most of out allies in the middle east no longer trust us because they can see he drops them when the tough gets going.

Where do you go from here, nowhere because he has effectively screwed all the options and now backed into a corner.


1,115 posted on 02/04/2011 6:26:36 AM PST by sunmars
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This article brings some pieces together and analyzes the Egyptian situation:

“Questions About Obama and The Muslim Brotherhood Lead To More Questions”
February 3, 2011

By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Site: http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/


1,116 posted on 02/04/2011 6:31:32 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: sunmars

Yeah- he’s managed to piss off everyone.

John Bolton was just on FOX and practically BEGGED Obama to STFU.


1,117 posted on 02/04/2011 6:32:45 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: NavyCanDo

post #14...Read Isaiah 19:1-5 and then 18 and 19. It is like reading todays newspapers.


1,118 posted on 02/04/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by native texan (Real Texans can take care of their selves.)
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To: SE Mom

Its something like 4:30pm there right now, its a friday, they say today is the ultimatum day, correct?

I saw a shot on CNN of a tank moving in, think things will get downright ugly soon?

They also say over a million people there as well now.


1,119 posted on 02/04/2011 6:36:10 AM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: SE Mom

Thank you for the ping and the great article. HushTX has inspired a strange optimism in me today. I do hope that those in Egypt who really want a democracy will be able to withstand the power against them. I am praying for them.

It is also interesting that Egyptians are calling for Obama to step down. I have been thinking about how these movements have been orchestrated through the college age and young working class. If any type of “revolution” mindset is built in our country, it will be with this same group.

I hope and PRAY that those of us who are beyond this age and have negotiated the 60’s and 70’s will help our younger folks understand that our in-place system is very workable and we can bring about positive movements without revolution. Our current House is doing a great job, and Senate will be turned at the next election.

It may take a few years, but we will get back on track. The Progressive Age has reached it’s final days. Of that, I have no doubt. We just need to hold our ground until these young folks can get into leadership roles and they will then revolutionize our country back to the great nation it once was. They are our hope, but only if we help them.


1,120 posted on 02/04/2011 6:36:57 AM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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