Friend, we seem to be on different planes here. We’re nearly having separate conversations.
My entire point is that the fundamental American principles of freedom and liberty are senior to even our Founding Documents. These basic concepts and ideas came before the construct of an agreement hammered out between men.
Our “unalienable rights” have existed throughout time immemorial, and are as immutable as any law of physics. They weren’t formulated, nor were they granted by the Framers.
Laws, statutes, ordinances, edicts, treaties, orders, rules, contracts, and even constitutions are are agreements hammered out by men to organize themselves. Within those agreements, we may all agree to grant some measure of control and authority to the organizing bodies we call governments, but at no time should that control or authority be confused with “rights”.
To return to the original premise of this argument, let me state again; It’s inconsistent with the American people’s native understanding of our inalienable rights to allow our government the power to force us to purchase health insurance, a firearm, or any other thing that the government may deem necessary, fit, or proper.
Free men have the power of choice. Slaves do not.
If you have to use force to make men stand and fight for each other, then that culture has already passed the point of no return, and isn’t worth fighting for.
>My entire point is that the fundamental American principles of freedom and liberty are senior to even our Founding Documents. These basic concepts and ideas came before the construct of an agreement hammered out between men.
My point, which you are missing, is that the Nation NEVER conformed to that degree of these founding principles that you are citing/claiming; this indicates several generally non-exclusive possibilities:
1 — Mankind’s inherient imperfection prevents it;
2 — The founding principals as stated were not used {i.e. hypocrisy and/or fraud}
3 — A misunderstanding, or a vastly different conceptual-framework, on your part as to what the founding principals were.