Posted on 01/31/2011 5:40:10 PM PST by marktwain
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg may prefer "No Labels" but in his case, I think "gun grabber" is a pretty fitting one. As part of his misguided crusade to tighten up gun laws nationally, The New York Times reports that Hizzoner sent undercover cops to gun shows in Arizona and found they were violating the law:
In two instances, the New York undercover officers specifically said before buying a gun, I probably couldnt pass a background check, but were still sold guns, city officials said.
In a third case, an investigator bought a Glock pistol and two high-capacity magazines like the ones used in the Tucson shooting. Such purchases were made without any background check but were perfectly legal.
Mr. Bloombergs office, which will release details of the undercover investigation on Monday, has for years pushed for tighter firearms laws. Since the Tucson shooting, Mr. Bloomberg has enlisted in his effort Daniel Hernandez, an intern in the office of Representative Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona. The congresswoman was the most seriously wounded, and Mr. Hernandez held her until emergency personnel arrived.
While some shady things might have occurred at the gun show and the authorities should be made aware of the problem, I can't help but find New York's investigation very unseemly. Aside from gun shows in Arizona, you know where you can readily buy a illegal firearms without a background check? The streets of New York.
Bloomberg should probably keep his undercover officers dedicated to preventing crime in his own city, where the homicide rate is markedly higher than the state of Arizona.
You don’t have to have a background check in several states if you buy from an individual. The seller broke no law,but I believe the out of state buyers did.
What is the legality of The mayor of NYC using New Yorker’s tax dollars for fishing expeditions in AZ?
Does the New York City charter allow such action by the Mayor?
The NYPD LEO’s were acting outside of their lawful authority, in violation of their department policy and likely several laws.
Bloomer can’t give his cops a commission to work as a cop, undercover or otherwise, for the state of Arizona.
Bloomer knows this, so I can’t help but wonder if he got the Feds to approve this, just to cover his rear.... or (put on your tinfoil hat), did all this happen at the behest of Obama’s people.
Bottom line... I think there is much more to this slimy event.
The NYPD LEO’s were acting outside of their lawful authority, in violation of their department policy and likely several laws.
Bloomer can’t give his cops a commission to work as a cop, undercover or otherwise, for the state of Arizona.
Bloomer knows this, so I can’t help but wonder if he got the Feds to approve this, just to cover his rear.... or (put on your tinfoil hat), did all this happen at the behest of Obama’s people.
Bottom line... I think there is much more to this slimy event.
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I wonder if the undercovers had forged AZ ID. Were tape recordings made of these legal transactions? How many people did they approach before someone sold them a gun? I’m wondering a lot of things about this. Mostly, what gives Bloomberg the right?
We’ve sold guns privately at gun shows in the past and always ask if the person is a felon and to see an AZ drivers license. If there is any hint that there’s something weird about the person, we don’t sell to that person. We are under no obligation to ask, but figure if anything happens and it comes back on us, we can say we practiced due diligence.
This country seems to have an abundance of power-mad dwarves running loose...
Gee how much did that cost? Airline tickets, hotels, rental cars, food, entertainment, gun purchases, etc.
Who paid those bills?
Actually, I believe almost all states have private sales with no NICS, except for Marxist hellholes like CA and the PRNJ. This is kind of a gray area. Even as a private seller, you're not supposed to sell to someone you have reason to think is disqualified. But....since gun people know Bloomingidiot is doing these "stings", is being told the buyer might not pass NICS even "reason to believe" anymore? It's just as likely to be one of his morons, as in this case.
Private sales are legal in Washington state also.
But I believe it is still a class C felony under state law to knowingly and willingly sell a weapon to anyone if you have any reason to believe that person may not lawfully possess a firearm.
I suspect the Arizona statutes say much the same thing.
Ax Revised statutes:
Title 13, Sec 3102, Cl 4
A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:...
5. Selling or transferring a deadly weapon to a prohibited possessor; or
Misconduct involving weapons under subsection A, paragraph 1, subdivision (a) of this section or subsection A, paragraph 5, 6 or 7 of this section is a class 6 felony.
Errata: SB Arizona Revised Statutes
In other words:
Mayor Bloomberg and his goons CONSPIRED to provoke a person in Arizona to commit a felony!!
Put that one in your pipe and smike it!!
Bust Bloomberg - Fishing without a License.
that’s my point!!!
And if they tried anything, I’m sure that me and my 3 witness’ would be forced to tell that they lied about being a resident of Arizona...
Right, but in conducting these stings, Bloomie has shot himself in his little size 8 statist foot. Since his henchmen are known to go around in other states buying weapons while falsely telling the sellers they probably couldn’t pass NICS, he’s diluted the usefulness of the statement. Some sellers might argue the statement is no longer “reason to believe” the buyer is disqualified, since these guys say it when it’s not true, for a person who IS disqualified, it wouldn’t be in their best interests to say so.
Really; certainly explains their deficit. There is a reason why we haven’t had a president from NY in more than half a century (despite being one of the larger states in terms of electoral votes); most Americans know better than to trust people from this part of the country.
Well, if I were Blooms counsel I’d be telling him to zip his lips so tight a crowbar couldn’t open them.
Conspiring to commit a felony in any state is itself an indictable offense.
An irritated prosecutor and a Grand Jury in Arizona could RIGHT NOW pass down an indictment. And that means Bloom and his goons could very quickly end up in cuffs on a plane to Phoenix!
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