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Breaking News & LIVE THREAD- Egypt and Middle East
Various on the internet | 28 January 2011

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:48 AM PST by SE Mom

From FOX:

DEVELOPING: Loud explosions and gunfire were heard in the Egyptian capital of Cairo Friday, as protesters demanding the removal of President Hosni Mubarak defied a curfew, Al Jazeera reported. Egyptian television reports the ruling party headquarters in Cairo are on fire.

From TWITTER:

WashingtonPost: Clinton: We urge #Egypt authorities to allow peaceful protest, reverse unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications less than 20 seconds ago


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To: SE Mom

Well Heck, maybe this will inspire the Castro and Kim Jong-Il regimes to follow suit, lol.


3,041 posted on 02/01/2011 11:44:30 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Lessthantolerant
Here is a sensible Egyptian's opinon:

Michael Youssef.com

America's Role In The Egypt Crisis

Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 at 02:47PM

Sometime ago I read about a billboard in Grand Junction, Colorado with Jimmy Carter’s picture on it and a thought bubble containing the following words, “They can’t call me the worst President anymore!” Recent events in the Middle East and the reaction of the Obama Administration has brought to memory that horrible nightmare of 1978-79 when the Carter administration did nothing to help or support the government of our ally and friend, the Shah of Iran.

The man from Plains Georgia watched from his White House television the unfolding street demonstrations in Tehran without any move to help resolve the issue one way or the other. Official statements that came from the White House at that time were very much what we hear today, that the White House is on the side of freedom and democracy, and on the side of the suffering people of Iran. Really?

Anyone with any intelligence back then would have figured out that Islamists’ had been working for years toward moving the masses on the streets of Tehran.

And now? Thirty-two years later, America, Israel, and the world are paying a price for that ill-informed and ill-conceived response. We should have learned a valuable lesson from that experience, but instead, the Obama Administration is repeating the same verse in the same chapter of the same book.

For years, Islamic education and Islamic militancy has been growing in Egypt. Islamic press and Islamic curriculum that is anti-Western, anti-Israel, and anti-Christian is being taught in schools throughout Egypt. The Wahabis have imposed Islamic symbols in the least likely places to succeed, places that had already come to modernity. Most notably, to me personally, during my recent visit to Alexandria, Egypt, were the changes to a city that once rivaled any western Mediterranean resort. In two short decades it has been transformed into a militant Islamic society where men and women bathe on the beaches in full Islamic garb. I thought to myself at the time, something has drastically changed and this change could not be for the good.

And sure enough, changes were evident in the attitude of average Muslim citizens toward Christians and their churches. When they could not fight the secular government of Hosni Mubarak, they took out their anger on Christians. Sadly, the Mubarak regime, anxious for survival, did very little other than to speak words to quell that hatred whilst the American administration stood with folded arms saying the White House is on the side of democracy, and on the side of freedom-loving people.

Now that the riots in Egypt are in full view of the world, the Obama Administration is playing the same game as Jimmy Carter, which will in all probability end with the same result. Many people are saying that it is too early to tell, but I can tell you that it will not be long before the American Administration allows the Egyptian government to fall and the same scenario of Iran of 1979 will be repeated with meticulous precision. The Islamists have put up a “front puppet” who happens to be an egotistical technocrat, who spent most of his life outside of Egypt as a prop. I’m talking of course about Mohamed El Baradei, who is the nemesis of Americans and who dragged his feet regarding the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

Just as the Iranians put up a prop in Abdulhassan Banisadr, the first President after the Shah, the Egyptians will put up Mohamed El Baradei, and once an election is called, the Islamists will win the day and all these “freedom-loving,” “democracy-seeking” secular moderates will be used as fodder for the Islamists’ fire. The takeover of the country and union with Hamas and enmity to Israel will take place in earnest.

The problem with freedom and democracy in the Muslim world is that it is a figment of the imagination that only exists in the minds of Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton.

May God have mercy.

Michael Youssef.com

3,042 posted on 02/01/2011 12:06:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: SE Mom

That means nothing, Mubarak stepping down at next election is not what the protestors want at all.

This is more posturing and Obama is really making a mess of this.


3,043 posted on 02/01/2011 12:07:34 PM PST by sunmars
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To: sunmars

>> “That means nothing, Mubarak stepping down at next election is not what the protestors want at all.” <<

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Who in their right mind gives a rat’s a$$ what the “protestors” want?


3,044 posted on 02/01/2011 12:11:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: sunmars

Waiting until elections is not gonna fly for Mubarak, you have to remove the entire tumour in one go in order to kill the cancer, leaving bits behind will mean it stays the same, the protestors know this.

This piecemeal dumbness cooked up by Obama and Mubarak is gonna piss them off more and it looks like to the Middle East that Obama is doing all he can to keep the regime in place.


3,045 posted on 02/01/2011 12:13:15 PM PST by sunmars
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To: HollyB; SE Mom; All

At risk of belaboring the obvious...

{this is a cross-post}

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2666894/posts?page=1

U.S. open to a role for Islamists in new Egypt government (OBAMA SUPPORTS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 1/31/2011 | Paul Richter and Peter Nicholas

Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:02:31 PM by mojito

The Obama administration said for the first time that it supports a role for groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned Islamist organization, in a reformed Egyptian government.

The organization must reject violence and recognize democratic goals if the U.S. is to be comfortable with it taking part in the government, the White House said. But by even setting conditions for the involvement of such nonsecular groups, the administration took a surprise step in the midst of the crisis that has enveloped Egypt for the last week.

[....]

Gibbs’ remarks came after a White House meeting at which administration officials briefed outside Middle East experts, leaving some of the participants with the impression that the administration was not counting on the 82-year-old Mubarak remaining in power.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


3,046 posted on 02/01/2011 12:14:05 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: sunmars
This is more posturing and Obama is really making a mess of this.

As usual, he's trying to play both sides. This is not going to end well.

3,047 posted on 02/01/2011 12:20:47 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Uncle Ike; FARS; All

I recently read that the Islamic oriented, elected, new government of Turkey has released several high level Kurdish prisoners. Like Lenin being put in a sealed car and shipped back to Russia at the time of the revolution?? Apparently they had been killing rival PPK (?) Kurds which seem to have a Marxist (non-Islamist) orientation. The guys they let out seem to be Islamist.


3,048 posted on 02/01/2011 12:25:19 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: SE Mom
(Mom - could you add me to the pinglist??)

Raises hand and says, "Pretty please."

3,049 posted on 02/01/2011 12:27:31 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ve seen Michael on TV. He is very wise—has a lot of experience—makes a lot of sense.

Does anyone in their right mind think that Egypt will ever be a democratic republic?

Get ready for another violent radical Islamicist state over there—replacing and burying the 5000 year old civilization that was Egypt.


3,050 posted on 02/01/2011 12:28:50 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: All

Shock (not) -— Hannity just said Obama has NEVER said one negative thing about Muslim Brotherhood.

Frank Gaffney coming up on his radio program to talk about Muslim Brotherhood.

Levin had excellent interviews with Gaffney & Andy McCarthy on his program last night & was also the best I have heard on the Fla Federal judge’s decision on Obamacare. Can listen or download here:

http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930


3,051 posted on 02/01/2011 12:34:28 PM PST by thouworm
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To: mewzilla; All

After Castro took over Cuba and destroyed the labor movement an organization was formed with help of the AFL-CIO call The American Institute for Free (noncommunist) Labor Development (AIFLD). It had offices throughout Latin America and worked to strengthen non communist labor groups and cooperative organizations. It was accused of being a CIA front. I wonder if AFL-CIO is doing something similar now. I know a lot of FReepers are anti union, but think about this before you attack.


3,052 posted on 02/01/2011 12:37:13 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: jersey117

if Mubarak keeps it up, he’s gonna get Mussolini’ed in the town square.


3,053 posted on 02/01/2011 12:41:45 PM PST by sunmars
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To: Uncle Ike; All

“the Obama administration is pushing Egypt into the chasm.”

And a few days ago FReepers were complaining that that #%$%^ Obama was not issuing strong support for the demonstrators. Sheesh, make up your minds!!


3,054 posted on 02/01/2011 12:50:35 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Not this freeper.


3,055 posted on 02/01/2011 12:59:16 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: publana

Mubarak on television now.


3,056 posted on 02/01/2011 1:01:29 PM PST by archivist007
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To: publana

Here we go... Mubarak speaking.


3,057 posted on 02/01/2011 1:01:41 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: publana

done :)


3,058 posted on 02/01/2011 1:09:23 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: publana

cnn has live camera of egyptian reaction in the square.


3,059 posted on 02/01/2011 1:13:21 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks SE Mom :)


3,060 posted on 02/01/2011 1:14:24 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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