Posted on 01/27/2011 10:51:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“Yeah, and liberating the concentration camps antagonized the Nazis. Good.”
LMAO.....exactly.
In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
“The Constitution is fine.
It was the courts that changed the original intent of the Amendment.
A law is more than adequate to correct it.”
I thought it was Kennedy’s immigration act that started it. But I agree with you this needs to stopped before we become Norte Mexicano.
“In 1965, the late Senator Ted Kennedy pressed hard for the immigration legislation-it was the first bill he managed through to passage- that eliminated the so-called ‘national origin’ quotas that had been used to keep the flow of immigrants into the U.S. overwhelmingly European. Confronting critics of the bill who had the foresight to question whether it would result in torrential flows of peoples from impoverished lands that would strain America’s ability to assimilate them, Kennedy dismissed even the suggestion that the ethnic and cultural balance of the nation would be impacted and, in a portent of strategy employed by the proponents of mass immigration ever since, he accused the bill’s critics of bigotry.”
I beg to differ
That person is subject to the jurisdiction of whatever country he came here from and MUST be returned there ASAP!
Yes, I am. That is currently how the law is and has been interpreted for some time (100 years, more?) I know that some college admissions cases have been surprised to find they had American citizenship because of it.
Sorry no. Colleges and Universities have been dealing with this issue for many decades. The paper work for non citizens is different than the paperwork for citizens. University legal work tends to be very good. I’m sure they have their ducks in a row on this practice of so many decades.
“Sorry, no?!”
LOL!
Okay, ignore facts because you’re convinced that the universities must have their ducks in a row.
I hope Kobach, puts the kibosh on illegal immigration
I am not convinced that the term “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is equivalent to “having both (or one) feet inside the border thereof”.
This would be a superfluous clause as the state “having both (or one) foot inside the border thereof” is covered by the prior “All persons born or naturalized in the United States.”
This is a different statement of some of the opinions already posted.
One for the SCOTUS. Stay tuned.
Agreed.
Citizenship for the new born of illegal entrants was intitally based on a throw-away comment that appeared in a dissent (cite not at my fingertips).
Even the ambassador of Ireland was subject to the jurisdiction until the U.S. decided to grant him immunity. Obviously, everyone not specifically granted immunity is said to be subject to the jurisdiction. The most sensible interpretation is that "subject to the jurisdiction" did not mean subject to the obvious, but was clearly intended to mean subject to the "sole" jurisdiction.
Folks should not believe for a moment that illegal entrants are subject to the sole jusridiction of the U.S. If so, how is it the native country of an illegal entrant accepts them back when we deport them?
No, because they and their parents weren’t brought here as slaves.
No. They are legally subject to the jurisdiction of their home country.
Thanks.......So Brennan and Kennedy killed America.
Good article by Ann. I’ll have to read more on Brennan.
Smith is born in America to illegal immigrants. He grows to adulthood and commits a federal crime. At trial, he pleads that he is “not subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States and must therefore be released, or at most deported.
How do you rule?
For an old man, you are an idiot. Illegal aliens are NOT subject to our jurisdiction. They are not here legally. PERIOD. The are subject to DEPORTATION, however.
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