Skip to comments.
OBAMA's State of the Union Was TANTAMOUNT TO PLAGIARISM
U.S.News & World Report ^
| January 26, 2011
| Alvin Felzenberg
Posted on 01/27/2011 10:00:21 AM PST by Yosemitest
Obama's State of the Union Was Tantamount to Plagiarism
January 26, 2011
By Alvin Felzenberg
If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, what can be said of plagiarism? President Obama’s second State of the Union address contained enough recycled ideas and lines lifted from speeches of others to make historians wince. I suppose this is what one does when one not only has nothing new to say, but is required by custom and Constitution to come forth with a report of some kind by a certain time and day.
Had Obama or his writers been considerate enough to have informed listeners of where some of the president’s best lines and offered-up ideas originated, the speech might be remembered for its cutting and pasting of great and not-so-great moments of the past performance of others. After quoting Robert Kennedy early on, Obama tried to have his listeners believe that everything else he said that we might remember were his or his writers’ creations. Had the president submitted the text of his second State of the Union Address in the form of a college term paper, he would have been sent forthwith to the nearest academic dean. Once again, our public affairs are such that we have one standard for presidents and another for undergraduates. Now is as good a time as any to let Obama’s listeners in on what the late Paul Harvey would have termed “the rest of the story.” [Take the poll: Was Obama’s State of the Union speech a success?]Early in his address, Obama said that he wanted the nation he leads to be a "light to the world." The last president who set such a mission for the nation he led, and in those exact words, was Woodrow Wilson.
Obama’s concept of the “American family” may well have had its origins in the first State of the State address New York Governor Mario Cuomo delivered in 1983. Cuomo proclaimed the state of New York as a “family.” He also talked about multiple partnerships, both public and private.
In an address to the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s, Margaret Thatcher delivered what might go down as the most memorable line in Obama’s second State of the Union address. The British Prime Minister told her American audience that the United States was the “first nation to have been founded on an idea.” It took the president a few additional words to get this idea across.
Obama’s pointed mutterings about a second “Sputnik Moment” being upon us and his recollection of how American policymakers responded to the last one with increased expenditures on infrastructure, science, technology, and education were clearly intended to evoke the spirit of Dwight D. Eisenhower. His setting of specific deadlines and goals was vintage JFK, but for the absence of any sense of challenge to his audience, list of benefits the United States would derive from them, or any semblance of a shared adventure the American people were about to embark upon. [Read Robert Schlesinger: Obama Not the First to Use 'Sputnik Moment.']
There was a certain Back to the Future feel to the masterful tributes Obama paid those Ronald Reagan might have described as “ordinary heroes.” After all, it was Reagan who began the practice of inviting citizens who had done extraordinary things to sit beside the first lady in the House gallery as the president recited their achievements. It was also Reagan who reminded his listeners that the greatness of America emerged not from the hand of government, but through the entrepreneurial spirit of the American people. [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on Obama.]
Obama received his most sustained applause when he said, "I know there isn’t a person here who would trade places with any other nation on Earth." Leaving aside the faulty grammar (people change places with people, not with nations), the poaching from John F. Kennedy's immortal inaugural address was obvious enough for the most historical of Obama's listeners to notice. ("I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation.") That Obama could utter almost identical words days after paying tribute to Kennedy on the 50th anniversary of the delivery of that famous speech and not making reference to it suggests a self-absorption rare even among presidents. [See photos of the Obamas behind the scenes.]
Most pointedly, the low point of Obama’s speech came when he brought back government re-organization from the ash heap of failed efforts of previous presidents who sought to save money without inflicting pain on a public that had grown accustomed to government largesse. This one, like all that talk about all those green energy jobs that lay before us, had fallen out of the presidential repertoire with retirement of Jimmy Carter. Obama might have had the decency to have Carter on hand to witness the moment. He will have another chance should he, when he delivers his budget, bring back that other Carter flop from yesteryear, “zero based budgeting.” [See a slide show of 10 worst presidents.]
Even Obama’s feigned attempt at humor had an antecedent in the remarks of a predecessor who spun better yarns than this president. Obama informed his listeners that salmon comes under the jurisdiction of one department when swimming in fresh water and under another when swimming in salt water. He rhetorically inquired what happened to the fish when “smoked.”
Somewhere in the White House library resides a published letter Franklin Roosevelt wrote to an adviser in which he complained that some bears were the property of the Interior Department, while others belonged the National Parks System. FDR, tongue in cheek, warned of a pending custody battle over cubs that emerged from illicit unions of bears crossing departmental jurisdictions. [Read A Brief History of the State of the Union Address.]
It would appear that the only president of note whose imprint was absent in Obama’s long awaited and much-anticipated speech was Obama. This was supposed to have been the moment when the nation found out whether he was at the core a Rooseveltian liberal of a Clintonian centrist. What it got was a cut and pasted version of great and not-so-great State of the Union and other addresses of the past.
Sometime last year, many suggested that Obama would have an easier time getting his message across if he was less dependent on his teleprompter. This may be the year his writers are advised to throw away their books of political quotations. Then we may finally find out what the president truly believes and what he hopes to achieve in the office he so ardently sought.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; bhosotu; failure; obama; plagiarism; sotu
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-29 next last
Thanks Rush, for this "heads up".
To: Yosemitest
U.S. News & World Report! ...Wow!
Barry/Barack is in serious trouble!
To: Yosemitest
” but is required by custom and Constitution to come forth with a report of some kind by a certain time and day. “
I recall reading somewhere that there’s no Constitutional requirement that this report be delivered in the form of a speech, or even ‘in person’ - that, in fact, the first few Presidents just ‘mailed it in’.....
3
posted on
01/27/2011 10:09:01 AM PST
by
Uncle Ike
(Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
To: Yosemitest
It sounded like a mish mash of a lot of BACCALAUREATE speeches.
The, "We made it", "We are ready for the new future", "We have to go out and make changes", "We are the World", ETC. ETC. ETC.
Anyone remember how boring those were? Just give me the stinking diploma and let me out of here.
4
posted on
01/27/2011 10:10:14 AM PST
by
annieokie
To: annieokie
“We do Big”
Can’t wait for campaign season. I’m going to slap liberals with that line.
5
posted on
01/27/2011 10:15:21 AM PST
by
dragonblustar
("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
To: Yosemitest
no mention of all the stuff he lifted from granholm’s speeches?
6
posted on
01/27/2011 10:15:26 AM PST
by
absolootezer0
(2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
To: TexasCajun
"Barry/Barack is in serious trouble!"
Really? I wonder why?
Let's examine
how Hawaii legally can issue bcs for those born out of stateand then hide this factby issuing a certificate stating BORN IN HAWAII OAHU HONOLULU"
I refer you to
Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.
We just did a story bringing to light how
To say that we started a firestorm would be putting it mildly.
We had our fair share of rational responses,
as well as the usual off-topic comments, accusations of being right-wing nuts, etc.
As well as a few that were too obscene to put into print.
It turns out that our theorythat the document presented by Obama appears to be homemade has some support,
Our friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs also presents a compelling case
And for you Obamanites
Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:
“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child,
the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health
that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii
had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health
in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate.
The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91
that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates
and to require any further information or proof of events
necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91.
Everybody get that?
As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii’s version of the Department of Records
and provide proof that they (the parents) are a legal resident of Hawaii,
the document is issued.
The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, KENYA, or a back-alley in Budapest.
How much more proof do you disciples of the Messiah need before you will admit that there are legitimate reasons to demand answers on this issue?
Of course the fact that Obama may have been elected to our nation’s highest office in direct violation of the United States Constitutionis NOT something that would greatly trouble a dedicated Kool-Aid drinker.
But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that
Barack Hussein Obama II ...is ... THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF!!!
Here is some more information and links
and all of this without using the link to "the source of the "moderator-offending-video" by a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens.
This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name.
This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront.
(But I don't see how those groups are MORE OFFENSIVE THAN the Marxists and Fascists in the White House.)
I have several witnesses,
that have proven to me that
Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.
First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:
Hmm…An AP story from 2004 entitled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate has been discovered on archive.org by many sites (and twitter where I got this). Does this mean now that the AP is nothing but a bunch of birthers?
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations. ...
The above artice is also found at
FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at
Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.
Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers.
Ed Hale, aprivate investigator in Hawaii, has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obamas father and mother, which indicates they had one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.
But a later Update 1/1/2009,... "In his 7:45pm Plains Radio broadcast, this last night, Ed Hale backed down from his prior assertion of having gained even uncertain information about the Barack Sr. / Stanley Ann divorce decree containing language referring to Barack Jr. as being born in Kenya. Instead, Hale referred to an apparently tricky recollection... of an ... referring to such a document's generally referring to the place of birth of the children of the divorced parents."
I believe that
"indeterminate person" probably SAW the
Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and
viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate, thereby telling Ed Hale
"the divorce decree for Barack Obamas father and mother, indicates they had 'one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.' ".
The
Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.
See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):
I immediately called the clerk in Hawaii and asked where the extra page was. She looked, and counted, and said that there must be some mistake in the records she counted only 13 pages that are available for reprint. I pointed out to her that the page count she sent skipped from page 10 to page 12 page 11 was missing. To that, she suggested that perhaps the pages were simply misnumbered before they where archived into the microfiche.
I accepted her answer, not thinking much about it at the time. Perhaps it was just a clerical error in the 1960s, when hand-filed paper records and IBM punch cards were how court documents were tracked and maintained.
I have since come to learn that Obama and his team of lawyers have been working to sanitize his records since he announced that he’d run for President circa November 2004. Now in the White House, hes still ACTIVELY blocking subpoenas for such documents as his Cambridge and Occidental College records TODAY the same type of documents promised to be made available during his campaign. Obama and his lawyers are exceedingly adept at exploiting loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law to keep Obamas past hidden from the American people.
This missing page page 11 very likely is a copy of the original birth certificate, based upon the prima facie timeline of the 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate was likely requested on Jan 23, 1964 by either Judge King (to award custody on the next trial date), or recommended to Ann Dunham by her attorney for the ex parte divorce, where only one parent was expected to be present.
The missing page, 11, should be chronologically-numbered as all other pages were in the original docket file, by the court clerk at the time. Starting at page 8, Exhibit A is placed where it would have occurred by date in the paperwork (and appeared on microfiche), even denoting an erased, yet barely-readable “8″ on both pages of the returned notification sent to Obama SR. The missing page, numbered as page 11, would likely be a page that would have been admitted to the divorce file sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 almost as if it were an undocumented Exhibit B.
Heres a very plausible timeline merging the 1964 Obama Divorce papers and new Kenya birth certificate:
Jan 20 (Mon) divorce request is filed by Stanley Ann D. Obama
Jan 23 (Thur) divorce orders for trial are given by Judge King at chambers
(note if the judge, or Ann Dunhams attorney, told her to order the Kenya birth certificate, it would have been mailed 10,000 miles away, to the Coast Province Registrars office of the Republic of Kenya, likely arriving around the first week of February 1964 to be processed)
Jan 28 (Tue) Gail A. Watanabe, presumably an assistant of Ann Obama attorney George Kerr, mails the notification for trial to Obama SR (her affidavit is signed Feb 3 and filed)
Jan 30 (Thur) via Air Mail, notification of trial arrives at Obama SRs Cambridge, Mass, address. The 10-day “knock and nail” notification would have expired on Sun, Feb 9. Therefore, the next trial date would have been automatically set, per Judge Kings instructions, for the first Tuesday, 30 days later, on March 3
Feb 10 (Mon) allowing for a 10-day knock and nail notification for trial, Obama SR’s trial notification would have been retrieved by the US Post Office on this date, to be mailed back (as events turned out UNSIGNED by Obama SR) to Hawaii as an exhibit for trial
Feb 17 (Mon) the Obama Kenya birth certificate is signed by the Coast Province Deputy Registrar, to be mailed back to Hawaii for receipt by Ann Obama and/or her attorney (note: mail time would have ranged from a few days (Air Mail) to a couple of weeks (ship), arriving back in Hawaii in the last week of February to first week of March 3 (Tue). Based upon Judge Kings Jan 23 orders for the next trial date, “at 9:30 a.m. on the first Tuesday after thirty (30) days have elapsed from and after the date” that Obama SR would have been served with the notice of trial. That notification came back, unsigned, by Obama SR, so Anns attorneys surely requested, and received Default Judgment for the divorce in her favor for grievous mental suffering
Mar 5 (Thur) trial takes place in favor of divorce in Hawaii, placing custody of Obama JR to his mother by default (note: the trial was likely rescheduled 2 days after the automatically set date of Mar 3, possibly for the convenience of the judge and/or parties)
Mar 20 (Fri) the divorce decree is signed by Judge King
In Hawaii, birth certificates are not Public Record. If the Kenya birth certificate was a part of the divorce decree, it may have been pulled out at the end of the trial, or more recently by a watchful archivist or attorneys wishing to remove unfavorable information about Obama.
To date, despite other honest attempts to refute the Kenya birth certificate, such as dealing with when the Republic of Kenya came into existence as a republic have been un-bunked. Dishonest alterations of the Kenya birth certificate have been maliciously created by sites such as Democratic Underground, designed to discredit the Kenya birth certificate theyve been un-bunked as well.
Having not actually seeing the Kenya birth certificate, and its chain of evidence, no intellectually-honest person can say if its real or not. By the same token, none of us have seen or touched the short-form Certification of Live Birth that has appeared on Obamas Fight the Smears or FactCheck.org websites.
No one can confirm the chain of evidence of Obamas Certification of Live Birth that has appeared online, which is the abbreviated-version of Obamas true, 1961, original long-form(s) Certificate of Live Birth and associated vital statistics records. Even the Hawaii Department of Health directly refuses to verify Obamas online COLBs.
Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,
Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video
Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.
Did Obama's grandmother say he was born in Kenya?The Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview was conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, who describes himself in his affidavit as an overseer of the Anabaptist Churches in North America and a "Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery."
McRae, who called from Detroit, says Sarah Obama was in a public setting with several hundred people listening to the telephone call on a speakerphone. The interpreter was Vitalis Akech Ogombe, the community chairman of Sarah Obama's village of Nyang'oma Kogelo in Western Kenya, 30 miles west of the Lake Victoria-city of Kisumu.
"In the ensuing public conversation, I asked Ms. Obama specifically, 'Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?'"
McRae testified in his sworn statement. "This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, "Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born."
Watch and LISTEN to the video
BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!and prove it to yourself.
Also watch
Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.
The fourth witness, Tim Adams,"Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State."
(
It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)
Election official: I'd testify Obama not born in Hawaii
"The things I've said, I don't mind testifying in court," Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.
"I was working there, and this is what it was. I'm not a lawyer, just a civil servant. I know what I know. I know what I was told by the hospitals and by my supervisors."
"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."
"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."
At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.
"They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."
To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation Obama was born at its facility.
Adams, 45, stressed, "In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."
WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.
"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.
Adams oversaw a group of 50 to 60 employees and was responsible for verifying the identity of voters, especially absentee voters.
"If you're working in the civil service and you say this, you're done," Adams said. "Don't expect to have a good career, especially since the governor is on the other side. Embarassing them is not good for your career."
The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands): The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,
Watch and learn.
(Just click on them for the source information.)
And finally, an outstanding video to watch,
Case CLOSED!!!
7
posted on
01/27/2011 10:15:43 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Yosemitest
this is so lame... the speech was all obama... i know cause joe biden helped him with it...
teeman
8
posted on
01/27/2011 10:16:40 AM PST
by
teeman8r
(i stand with israel and our God.)
To: Yosemitest
he said, "I know there isnt a person here who would trade places with any other nation on Earth." Leaving aside the faulty grammar That actually isn't bad grammar, but there was plenty of bad grammar in the speech.
9
posted on
01/27/2011 10:25:11 AM PST
by
firebrand
To: Yosemitest
Bump!
I believe the AP, Granny & Brother in Kenya!
He rhetorically inquired what happened to the fish when smoked.Then it's the Food and Drug Administration.
11
posted on
01/27/2011 10:34:39 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Yosemitest
Obama's speechwriters are just a bunch of young turks who have no maturity or experience in real life.
They were testing trial balloons up to the last minute and copying and pasting snatches of speeches from the past as things dictated.
No thoughtfulness whatsoever in this Chicago White House.
To: Yosemitest
The thugs lack any imagination, but then that is to be expected from Marxist thugs.
What is inspiring about archaic ideas that have never worked and cause misery for all.
13
posted on
01/27/2011 10:40:25 AM PST
by
dforest
To: Yosemitest
I thought this President was supposed to be some sort of intellectual. Isn’t that what the libs, and some purported conservatives like to say when they talk about how Sarah Palin is not enough of an “intellectual” to be President?
14
posted on
01/27/2011 10:41:46 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: absolootezer0
Sounds like he is a Fake:
If men could be counterfit
then you’d be it.
You’re a fake
baby
you can’t conceal it
. . .
You’re a fake
baby
We’ve blown your cover
the iig is up
‘cause we discovered -
You’re a fake
baby
no need to hide it
Can’t change our mind
‘cause we’ve decided -
You’re a fake
baby
and we’re disgusted
The game is through and
man
you’re busted
fake!
some changed lyrics from Alexander ONeil’s song
To: Yosemitest
The ONY thing he hasn't plagarized is "We are who we've been waiting for"!!!
OMG!! There has NEVER been such an Egotistical Blowhard.....EVER!! That sentence is his alone.....NO ONE will plagarize it...NO ONE!
16
posted on
01/27/2011 11:07:04 AM PST
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: Yosemitest
17
posted on
01/27/2011 11:41:01 AM PST
by
lowbridge
(Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
To: Yosemitest
A delightful review! It highlights at once the sophomoric speechwriter who must have "researched" the materials for inclusion in the speech (probably presenting them to the speech giver without references) and the lack of intellectual depth of the person who accepted the "research" and presented re-phrased and re-worded quotations from others of 20th and 21st Century vintage for all the world to hear and see.
Pity these so-called "intellectuals" have not been immersed in the ideas of liberty, as so beautifully articulated and implemented by America's Founders. Their intent to "reform" government may not mean what citizens think it means--respecting the Constitution's limits on their power.
Now is a good time for true conservatives to read Dr. Russell Kirk's "The Conservative Mind, which can be read online, by the way.
In Kirk's last chapter he reviews the works of poets and writers, quoting lines which now seem to bear a strikinig resemblance to the players on the stage in American politics today.
For instance, in Robert Frost's "A Case for Jefferson," Frost writes of the character Harrison:
"Harrison loves my country too
But wants it all made over new.
. . . .
He dotes on Saturday pork and beans.
But his mind is hardly out of his teens.
With him the love of country means
Blowing it all to smithereens
And having it made over new."
The pseudointellectuals who occupy the White House, the media, and much of Congress fancy themselves "intellectuals."
By their words and actions, however, they display a provinciality reminiscent of that Dr. Kirk recalls as having been described by T. S. Eliot as being one of time and place, having no intellectual grounding in ideas older than their own little experience in dabbling and discussing Mao, Marx, and other theoreticians.
America's written Constitution deserves protectors whose minds are out of their teens in terms of their understanding of civilization's long struggle for liberty.
It certainly deserves protectors who do not consider it a "flawed" document because it does not permit the government it structures to run rough shod over the rights of its "KEEPERS, the People" (Justice Story).
Blasting it "all to smithereens" seems to be the goal of the Far Left which currently has control of the Executive and Legislative branches of the government.
To: Yosemitest
OBAMA's State of the Union Was TANTAMOUNT TO PLAGIARISM So Obama is a blogger at heart?
19
posted on
01/27/2011 11:54:37 AM PST
by
humblegunner
(Blogger Overlord)
To: loveliberty2
You have an outstanding comment.
Someone should do a thread on,
"Seriously ~ ~ How DO WE ... PROTECT AND DEFEND the Constitution Today,
with Fascists/Marxists in the White House and in control of the Democrat National Socialists Party ?"
20
posted on
01/27/2011 12:09:47 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-29 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson