Welcome to Birther Nation!
Posted on 01/26/2011 12:54:03 PM PST by pissant
Celebrity journalist Mike Evans told Minnesota's KQRS radio last week that his friend, Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, has been unable to find President Barack Obama's birth certificate despite an intensive search.
A group of conspiracy theorists known as "birthers" have long claimed that Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the presidency because he was actually born in Kenya. Abercrombie, an old friend of Obama's family, made headlines last month when he announced that he was trying to figure out how he could release more explicit documentation of the president's birth in order to permanently defuse the issue before the 2012 elections. He quickly abandoned his search, however, due to state laws that prevent private documents from being revealed.
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I can’t see video on my computer; did Abercrombie make the T-ball claim in a previous interview?
See post 59.
I finally got it.
Now I’m going back to bed.
Welcome to Birther Nation!
I wonder when the you-tube video will be pulled? The reporter was reciting his conversation with the Gov. of Hawaii very clearly, scripted perfectly with absolute clarity of Evans wanted to get across to the listener. I think a fake long form was in the works to be produced and the transaction logs clause in the eligibility bill really put a halt into introducing a fake long form birth certificate.
Obama will try to claim that the documents he provides can’t be made public, and then try to buy off (or threaten) the SOS. If the state doesn’t specifically require the documents to be made public it will all depend on how badly the SOS wants to stay alive.
Maybe. I don’t know. I just don’t put anything past these people at this point.
The person Loughner planned to assassinate is doing fine now (which is fantastic!) - but the only judge in the 9th Circuit who would even POSSIBLY rule correctly on AZ’s upcoming eligibility bill being Constitutional was Judge John Roll, who was (according to an expert here at FR) most likely dead within about 10 seconds of being shot in the aorta.
As of Dec 24th Abercrombie told the NYT that he was hopping mad at states with eligibility bills (presumably PENDING eligiblity bills). The states I know of that knew ahead of time that they would be considering eligibility bills this year are Texas (I believe the bill was pre-filed there) and Arizona, where the chief sponsor had already told WND that she would re-introduce it in 2011, according to a Nov 21st article.
By Jan 8th the judge who would have heard the DOJ’s inevitable eligibility bill challenge was shot dead, to be replaced by someone of Barack Obama’s choosing - with Sheriff Dupnik adamant that Roll was there without anybody knowing he was going there, and the FBI literally swearing in a court document that Roll had been contacted ahead of time and was planning on being there. Roll’s aide said he left his house (not the church as Dupnik claimed) to go to the rally at 9:55am.
I don’t know what happened. But I wish somebody would do some real investigating to find out.
IMO Abercrombie is acting under the legal advice of an attorney, the message was given to Evans that he better lawyer up or face consequences, and he got with the program. I'm sure many people are urgently lawyering up in the last week or two.
Direct podcast link to the Interview on the KQRS Morning show
(fast loading interview way at the end)
It’s still up
I downloaded it, If it gets pulled, I will put it up again myself.
Was that an article, or an editorial? I hate reading crap like that.
But maybe it gives me a reason to contact the guy who introduced that bill, to let him know what would really make the issue go away.
There wasn’t a link to the bill itself, but as long as a SOS doesn’t have a definition of “natural born citizen” to work with and isn’t required to base any decisions on the actual documents, Montana under that bill wouldn’t be much different than the situation in New Jersey, where the SOS was required to “verify Constitutional eligibility” for presidential candidates and yet when Roger Calero, John McCain, and Barack Obama were all placed on the ballots Donofrio couldn’t even get standing to sue.
It’s good to see the eligibility bills presented, but not just anything will work on this issue, because of the slippery arguments already used to frustrate real accountability.
Thanks for the link. I think I’ll see about contacting that lawmaker in Montana. See if he’ll consider some amendments to the bill.
Thank you for admitting this. The redicule shoveled at us frome conservatives has stung more than you know. The reason Obama thought he could get away with this is that the law is so convoluted and changed over time, that it is difficult to track, and most people do not want to do the research necessary to get familiar with the main issues and law involved.
We have been right all along, and DAMN if it doesn’t feel just a little bit good to finally be getting some respect for it.
And the scandal is so big and the stakes so high that it could potentially put Nancy Pelosi in prison for the rest of her natural life if she escapes the firing squad. Think about that for a minute.
There isn’t a real one in Hawaii, and Obama just spent what? 10 million? taxpayer dollars to fulfill Odinga’s campaign promise to the Muslims in Kenya, to institute sharia in their Constitution.
Two different Kenyan BC’s have been presented to a court - one claiming to be from the Kenyan vital records office and another claiming to be from a Mombasa hospital - and without court approval to have the records validated by Kenyan officials, they make no difference.
Odinga sealed something in Kenya. I imagine the taxpayers’ $10 million just paid for that to stay sealed, if it hasn’t already been destroyed.
The way a forgery would be revealed is by looking at ALL his birth and citizenship records and the transaction logs for them, as far as I can tell from what I’ve read and heard.
After hearing all these “news” reports saying that the Factcheck COLB has been authenticated by the HDOH - even after I’ve informed as many news outlets as I could think of, that the HDOH has actually indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways that Factcheck is a forgery - I don’t trust the media to inform the public. Even if a cartoon BC was submitted, there would be no way for the earnest Americans to hold government/law enforcement accountable to prosecute the crime of forgery.
This whole thing has revealed that we don’t have law enforcement. We don’t have courts. We don’t have any form of government accountability when it comes to politicians engaging in criminal activity.
The only accountability we have is if we can force the records to be out in the daylight - including the transaction logs.
According to Peter Boyles’ interview with Evans, the audio has already been pulled from the website of the radio station it originally appeared on.
We need to make sure the transaction logs clause is included in at least one of the eligibility bills that gets passed. If not, all these discrepancies will be used to get people’s attention, and then they’ll produce a forgery with an HDOH seal on it. It’ll be exactly the set-up that Rush feared it would be. The only way we can protect against that is to have a state require the transaction logs. So far that isn’t included in any of the eligibility bills that have been formally introduced.
A sample bill that includes the transaction log clause is at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf . I’m urging everybody who lives in a state that doesn’t have an eligibility bill already introduced and that shows any hope of ever passing one to e-mail their state legislators and ask them to introduce and pass this bill or another one like it that DOES have a transaction log clause.
We need a Columbo to investigate this mess. He may have to fly to Kenya or other countries to find the truth; connect the dots.
I have no idea whether Ulsterman is for real or not, but the latest installment has the White House insider saying he may lose his job; there’s a big purge going on and the whole eligibility issue has gone into the serious big-gun operations stage (my paraphrase).
Again, I have no idea whether it’s all fabrication or not, but if it’s genuine then there are probably some horse-heads showing up in beds about now.
I guess we’ll see.
And our chief law enforcement officer is AG Eric Holder. Under him are the US attorneys, all appointed by..... Barack Obama.
Don’t hold your breath.
Obama voters do not care where he was born.
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