Posted on 01/25/2011 4:08:19 AM PST by marktwain
Will .22 rimfires fall under new reporting controls? Will CA bullet button system be classified as detachable magazine?
The following was provided to me by a source who has proven reliable over the years. It was given to him by an ATF insider with the specific request to be forwarded to me. I am reproducing it here unedited and in its entirety as I received it:
It appears the new technical experts at ATF headquarters are making another technical determination in their new bid to classify firearms in a prohibitive way. We are all now aware that ATF will be requiring a multiple sales report an all rifles with a detachable magazine and a caliber larger than .220. The rationale for this is to stop assault type rifles going south of the border. It was not very well thought out in the planning stages. But when headquarters personnel make a plan it generally isnt good and it is implemented and who cares. If ATF was so concerned with monitoring what types of firearms were being trafficked why were the firearms they want to stop not properly described? What are these boneheads really doing? All firearms owners know the .22 caliber rimfire is .224[*] in diameter. So if someone buys more than one Ruger 10/22 is a multiple sale form required? In accordance with the ATF plan it is. This plan also brought up the true ATF anti gun agenda which is what to do about the California bullet button. If you dont know, gun owners in California cannot own an AR15 that accepts a detachable magazine. A well thought out design was created in which the magazine off an AR15 can only come out with a tool. The magazine release is replaced with a latch with an internal release. A tool called a bullet button is inserted into the replacement magazine release to drop the magazine. In California, the most restrictive state for gun owners, this was defined as not being a detachable magazine. Yet ATF is going to redefine this system. To further the anti gun agenda ATF is classifying the bullet button system as a detachable magazine. ATF has the intention of defining, what a tool is, how much time it takes in the use of the tool to remove the magazine, and the time to install the replacement magazine catch. The reason this is such critical issue is because the ATF experts were watching U Tube and found a young kid rapidly detaching the magazine. If this young kid could do it then it must be a new super device that all the drug cartels will be buying and replacing the normal magazine release on all of their AR type rifles. (Just sarcasm.) In this fervor to prohibit gun ownership by attacking any detachable magazine gun above .220 they never thought about receivers. Under the new reporting instructions AR15 receivers are not regulated, nor are completely assembled AR15 receivers without an upper receiver regulated. I am sure that ATF must know this which lends credence that this is just a new agenda for the ATF gun grabbers. Does anyone believe that if the ATF defines the bullet button as a detachable magazine federally that California will not redefine their law? Sorry California gun owners we really dont care.
[*Specifications: Bullet diameter: .223; Neck diameter: .225; Base diameter: .225; Rim diameter: .275]
The business about .22s being caught up in the new oversight proposal is something Ive been discussing with others, just the other day with fellow Gun Rights Examiners Liston Matthews and Kurt Hofmann, and earlier with a reader and correspondent who uses the screen name W3, himself a retired Texas peace officer.
I was not intending to say anything about this at this time, because as W3 put it in an email he sent me over a month ago:
If ATF's word-twisters haven't already figured this out I really don't intend, or want, to educate them prematurely. It's more fun to educate a lawyer in a courtroom in front of a jury and his peers.
I was pretty sure that I had read somewhere that, like the .S&W 38 caliber pistol projectile being actually .357 of an inch in diameter, .22 caliber projectiles arent actually .220 of an inch in diameter. The .22 rim-fire is actually .223 .224.
Did a Google search and found the answer on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle
Im wondering if the ATF wordtwisters are aware that there is no true .22 caliber long gun round and that if they are allowed to require FFL reporting two or more sales of only (1) semi-auto long guns, (2) over .22 caliber, and (3) with a detachable magazine. That their hidden agenda is to actually require FFLs to report on two or more sales of all semi-auto long guns with a detachable magazine.
This new information preempts any intent I had about just sitting back and watching, particularly with the California bullet button development. What it, along with todays anticipated Saiga ruling point to are back door gun control measures being implemented with no accountability or oversight.
This is not representative legislation with checks and balances to protect against overreach, usurpation and abuse, this is rule by edict. This is more power being assumed by people whose actions raise serious concerns about how they use the power theyve already got.
It has to stop. Or we have to stop it.
Exactly. It must stop.
Thanks for posting, but anyone that uses Wikipedia for a source is a fool.
Knowing the popularity of the M-16, and the million variations, I wonder just how many folks in CA, actually got rid of theirs? HMMMMMM? Between the CA ASS EMBLY, and the BATFE XXXYYYZZZ CA gunowners don’t have a chance.
The rest of us are right around the corner, and already in the target zone, having lost all hope of staying even with shock and awe, by virtue of 1934 and 1986 anti constitutional gun bans and firecracker laws that make anything with a fuse that goes bang patently illegal.
Freedom is never lost all at once, Edmund Burke.
Leftists know they cannot take away all our rights at one time, so they go for the incremental approach.
Deprive one group their rights over there; declare an implement of a right illegal here.
Over time, people become less and less free and have fewer and fewer liberties, but they do not notice.
Until one day, they wake up to the danger and it is too late.
If you will elect me as president, the first thing i promise to do is abolish the A.T.F. and the I.R.S., well it could not happen with out an american congress and an american senate but still if some one ran for president on that platform they would get my vote.
Every one grips about the I.R.S. and most grips about too much police power but do you think they would vote for some one who would promise to get rid of some of of it?
I doubt it, the news media would paint them as nuts and the people who think of the news media as gods would believe it.
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