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The Birther Trial Balloon
The American Thinker ^ | January 25, 2011 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 01/25/2011 3:28:21 AM PST by Scanian

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To: SampleMan

No problem. I am not the spelling police. But I couldn’t resist this one, especially since obambi probably DOES dream of wearing tights and spinning into the arms of the Leading Man. Among his other hideous traits — commie, muzzie — I also suspect him of being a gay blade.


21 posted on 01/25/2011 4:23:31 AM PST by samtheman
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To: missnry

I think this “trick” explanation has been promulgated by media companies who gave it to their talkers as a ready-made excuse for not discussing 0’s eligibilty.

They have known all along that the issue is hyper-sensitive to 0 and they fear retaliation from agencies like the FCC or the IRS against media companies which decide to discuss it.


22 posted on 01/25/2011 4:23:51 AM PST by Scanian
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To: AlexW
Even if Obozo comes up with a REAL birth certificate, he will be castigated for dragging the country through a needless debate, then pulling an “April’s Fool” joke.

You can count on the RINOpublicans and the MSM to do just the opposite.

23 posted on 01/25/2011 4:28:02 AM PST by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: wintertime
Well thought out article, the original post.

But, like Glenn says, "Set REASON in her proper seat" and "Question with BOLDNESS".

Here's what I have to add ...

Links for those of you in denial, or either too duped to accept the truth of THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF.


Let's examine
I refer you to Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.
But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that

Here is some more information and links


I have several witnesses, that have proven to me that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.

First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:
The above artice is also found at FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.


Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers. I believe that "indeterminate person" probably SAW the Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate,
thereby telling Ed Hale
The Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.

Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.
Watch and LISTEN to the video BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!
and prove it to yourself.
Also watch Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.

The fourth witness, Tim Adams,
(It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands):

The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,


Case CLOSED!!!



24 posted on 01/25/2011 4:30:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: wintertime
What you said!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

25 posted on 01/25/2011 4:31:04 AM PST by The Comedian (Obama is just the cherry on top of the $hit sundae of fraud the democrats have become.)
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To: 9YearLurker
There is an 800 pound rotting corpse of a gorilla sitting on the sofa in the American constitutional living room...and..you are essentially suggesting that Americans hold their noses and tiptoe around the stinking maggoty constitutional mess rather than clean it up.

Yeah! That will help strengthen the Constitution and rule of law. /s

26 posted on 01/25/2011 4:31:46 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime

If you think going after him for it will keep him from being re-elected, I think you are delusional. The ideal is for the issue to build in the next 2 years so that it is apparent how real it is, but not yet culminated in any legal action. Let such culmination come after he is voted out of office or there is a real risk of only succeeding in getting him re-elected. (Talk about a real Constitutional crisis!)


27 posted on 01/25/2011 4:49:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: AlexW; missnry

Oh, I agree that this is a no-win for Bambi - if he doesn’t have it, he has lied; and if he suddenly produces it and it has information that doesn’t fit his story, he has lied. The question, of course, is whether this will matter to anybody.

You may think that proof that Obama has lied or even proof that he is not consitutionally eligible is going to upset people, but I don’t think it will, or at any rate, not enough to derail his election bid.

So I think the Dems know this and are just testing their theory, getting it all out now because they know that Americans have a short memory. By the time 2012 rolls around, people will probably have decided that he lied and it doesn’t matter. Possibly, if it gets really bad and it turns out he was born elsewhere, SCOTUS will have ruled that since he has already been elected once, the constitutional rule does not apply or, as they did in Roe v Wade, that the Constitution has some kind of “penumbra” that permits a President not to be a natural born citizen.

But don’t expect any outrage. This trial balloon is just inoculation against the possibility of outrage.


28 posted on 01/25/2011 4:51:21 AM PST by livius
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To: 9YearLurker
If you think going after him for it will keep him from being re-elected,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is about defending the Constitution and the rule of law. It isn't about something so puny as formulating a strategy for the next election.

29 posted on 01/25/2011 5:01:49 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: livius

Immigrants don’t have US based institutional birth certificates to produce. They have foreign based birth certificates.

Consequently, Obama can only show his Certificate of Naturalization to prove US citizenship. After Obama emigrated from Indonesia, he went through the naturalization process to become a naturalized US citizen.

Incidentally, John McCain does not have a US based institutional birth certificate, either. He’s a statutory citizen and uses a Certificate of Citizenship to prove his US Citizenship.

Obama has successfully navigated a convoluted system of proving US citizenship and evolved into a US native born person with a Certificate of Naturalization and no valid birth certificate from any US based institution.


30 posted on 01/25/2011 5:01:59 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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To: Scanian

“there is no new evidence — just a story about a supposedly well-intentioned but bungling Hawaiian governor, prohibited from access to the certificate because of Hawaii’s privacy laws”

Nothing prohibited the governor from getting access to the original long form b/c was except the fact that it doesn’t exist.


31 posted on 01/25/2011 5:04:14 AM PST by Helotes
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To: wintertime

Okay: “keep him from being re-elected and see the Constitutional rule of law enforced”


32 posted on 01/25/2011 5:12:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
The **best** strategy for winning elections ( on every level) is for true conservatives to stand up and defend the Constitution and the rule of law.

Simple!

That would have included impeaching and **convicting** Clinton. It means doing what is necessary to force Obama to prove his natural born citizenship, **now**!

The best strategy for winning elections is to work with the Tea Parties to get courageous and **true** conservatives ( with gonads bigger than dust mites) elected to every political position in U.S.

33 posted on 01/25/2011 5:19:59 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: 9YearLurker
We The People should NOT ignore the Constitution.

It is a incredibly poor strategy, legal or otherwise, to spend MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to hide a required common document from public view and repeatedly lie about it.

Further, it would be complete political folly to then reveal a LONG FORM of the Birth Certificate several years later, with the purpose of putting one over on The People or supposedly embarrassing political opponents for insisting on adherence to a Constitutional requirement.

Something about this whole thing has the foul stench of deception and at its very core, it is a Consitutional requirement.

The effects of uncovering this deception has the potential to undo every Bill and Executive Order that Obama has signed into law or regulation.


34 posted on 01/25/2011 5:46:35 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Helotes

As if we are supposed to believe that any elected Democrat would be such a stickler about following rules and regulations(privacy laws).

They invariably abuse their authority but we are supposed to believe that Abercrombie is different.

And people wonder why many of us have doubts about Obama’s NBC status. The whole thing stinks out loud.


35 posted on 01/25/2011 5:50:47 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I just don’t buy into the notion that the long form BC contains embarassing information and that is the reason for withholding it. The adoring throngs of 0bamunists would forgive the anointed one nearly anything... Spinning some embarassing information would take about an hour and the MSM would take it from there.

Nope...it’s not ‘embarassing info’ that is stopping this. It’s much more likely clear and distinct evidence that the man is NOT Constitutionally eligible to hold the office he currently occupies, IMO.

Clearly, there are far too many questions about this guy’s background and his personal history to simply let things drop. There is a valid Constitutional question remaining to be answered. To drop it, or to simply overlook it, is tantamount to caving in to the left’s belief that the foundational document of our Nation is a ‘living’ document meant to be interpreted differently in changing times.


36 posted on 01/25/2011 6:32:18 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: SampleMan
Dream on.

"Conservative" lawmakers around the country have discovered a temporary bounce whenever they make an "eligibility law" proposal.

They never seeem to get around to making it on the floor of their legislature, much less drafting it and getting it through, and even less chance of getting it on the desk of a governor who will sign it.

Sound and fury, signifying nothing. No one in elected office dares challenge the regime. They risk pension loss, IRS investigation, etc. and they are not about to do THAT.

37 posted on 01/25/2011 6:53:19 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Wanted: 1 Governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off 1 state ballot in 2012.)
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BFL


38 posted on 01/25/2011 6:54:22 AM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Scanian

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


39 posted on 01/25/2011 7:20:11 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: samtheman

Speaking of tutus, people may have forgotten, but early on Michelle said she couldn’t keep Barry away from her clothes:

“President Barack Obama is obsessed with his wife’s clothes but knows nothing about fashion, the First Lady, Michelle Obama has revealed.”

“[Michelle] says that she orders the president to stop nosing around her wardrobe”

‘”He’s always asking: ‘Is that new? I haven’t seen that before,’” she said, revealing that she replies: “Why don’t you mind your own business? Solve world hunger. Get out of my closet.”’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/michelle-obama/5028053/Michelle-Obama-says-her-husband-Barack-knows-nothing-about-fashion.html


40 posted on 01/25/2011 7:48:10 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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