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China stealth fighter 'copied parts from downed US jet'
BBC News ^ | 24 January 2011 | BBC News

Posted on 01/24/2011 8:01:43 AM PST by Ancient Drive

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To: Paradox
"It was old tech when it was shot down... "

Don't confuse "old" with "no longer valuable"

Kind'a like the US Constitution.....

21 posted on 01/24/2011 8:22:16 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Creation dittoes!!!


22 posted on 01/24/2011 8:22:50 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I can’t find the thread, but I think sometime in the last 6 months, someone was messing around on Google Earth and found an F-117 in the middle of China.”

http://asian-defence.blogspot.com/2011/01/f-117-night-hawk-mockup-in-luoyang.html


23 posted on 01/24/2011 8:24:05 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: Ancient Drive

Flash: BBC News Obtains Latest Parts List of PLAAF New J-20 Stealth Jet Fighter.

/s


24 posted on 01/24/2011 8:26:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Hardraade

reverse engineer the materials


25 posted on 01/24/2011 8:27:14 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

That’s it. Thanks.


26 posted on 01/24/2011 8:27:20 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Ancient Drive

That and reverse engineering.

In 1946 Andrei Tupolev built Russia’s first very long-range heavy bomber.....an almost exact copy of a Boeing B-29 Superfortress that had landed in Vladivostok in 1945 after sustaining damage over Japan.


27 posted on 01/24/2011 8:30:36 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Paradox

and when the Chinese got the composite skin of the stealth fighter in their labs they realized it was the same material that they used to make knock offs of Ovation acoustic guitars all these years.


28 posted on 01/24/2011 8:32:38 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Ancient Drive
Remember China's role in the Balkan's war?

Specifically, remember when another stealth aircraft (a B-2 stealth bomber) "accidentally" dropped five super-accurate JDAM bombs on the Chinese embassy?

U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade

29 posted on 01/24/2011 8:34:43 AM PST by magellan
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To: Ancient Drive

When the stealth jet was hit and crashed Clinton SHOULD have been smart enough to order it destroyed by a massive incendiary bomb ASAP.

He was probably “preoccupied”..


30 posted on 01/24/2011 8:35:15 AM PST by macquire
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Don’t forget Clinton’s Commerce Sec’yat the time was Ron Brown....who was subpoenaed to testify before congress over classified technology being sent to the Chicoms in the wake of the Loral kerfuffle, and as rumor had it was about to sing “Pagliacci”.

Of course Bubba sent Brown to the Balkans where his plane mysteriously crashed......and Ron Brown’s body was found yards from the wreckage with no apparent injury, except for the .45 cal.-sized hole in his head.


31 posted on 01/24/2011 8:36:43 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; ...
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"... someone was messing around on Google Earth and found an F-117 in the middle of China.”

Check out link at # 23 to see photo.

32 posted on 01/24/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Tallguy

Large portions of the craft were recovered, from the engine intakes to the exhaust to critical joints and things like the canopy.

IIRC, cell towers were used to look for the moving radio “void” in a computerized and decentralized method.


33 posted on 01/24/2011 8:46:05 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: macquire

There you FReepers go again. Blaming me for everything.

34 posted on 01/24/2011 8:47:24 AM PST by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times some idiots will believe it.)
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To: Ancient Drive
Old news:

stealth

35 posted on 01/24/2011 8:48:49 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Jewbacca
IIRC, cell towers were used to look for the moving radio “void” in a computerized and decentralized method.

IIRC, the Chinese have been looking into that method. There has a lot that has been written about the F-117 shootdown over Serbia. I'm inclined to believe that the Serbs (probably with some outside help) took a fairly standard SAM radar & tricked it up to look for very small targets. This will work if you are looking at a very small slice of the sky and you know with some accuracy when the target aircraft is likely to arrive.

The cell tower method would likely involve a lot of sophisticated software and a degree of network reliablilty that might not have been possible for the Serbs. I say "might".

36 posted on 01/24/2011 8:54:07 AM PST by Tallguy (Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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To: Ancient Drive
Star Trek tried to portray the Ferengi as American Capitalists, but in reality they more closely resemble the ChiComms. This incident sounds like they're following the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, particulary Rule #52: "Why ask when you can take?"
37 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:26 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Abathar

We may never know but I read that it was pure luck.

And yes, the French and Greeks did leak lots and lots of NATO secrets. This shows the weakness of NATO, you need ‘consensus’ of 28 countries with divergent interests and goals. Can you imagine a US General leaking info to Saddam because “Bush lied about the war for oil” ?? Yet, in NATO it happens because each country has different alliances and goals. Even if Russia attacked them tomorrow a few countries would betray NATO for cheaper Russian gas or whatever.


38 posted on 01/24/2011 9:09:24 AM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: Ancient Drive

Yes, and the Mitsubishi Zero was copied from the Hughes H-1. Sure it was.

Everybody knew those Japanese could only copy Western engineering.


39 posted on 01/24/2011 9:13:00 AM PST by Grut
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To: Ancient Drive
“may have come from a US plane shot down during the Kosovo”

What's the big deal? They have thousands of people here at our universities and companies stealing everything they can.
Some people might be shocked to know how much of an effort China makes to steal technology from us.

40 posted on 01/24/2011 9:21:24 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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