The record becomes “Amended” and has to state such on the OCLB. Hawaii has statutiorially admitted Obama has an Amended record. IT is one way we know the FactCheck COLB is a fake, it doesn’t have “Amended” anywhere on it.
Now, if someone disolves an adoption, and Obama could have done so, the record would have been amended again. This would all bave been kept in the same file. Butterdezillion has lots of information on this. If I am incorrect on any of that, I am certain she will correct me!
I have got to stop posting off my cell phone.
The record becomes “Amended” and has to state such on the OCLB. Hawaii has statutiorially admitted Obama has an Amended record. IT is one way we know the FactCheck COLB is a fake, it doesn’t have “Amended” anywhere on it.
Now, if someone disolves an adoption, and Obama could have done so, the record would have been amended again. This would all bave been kept in the same file. Butterdezillion has lots of information on this. If I am incorrect on any of that, I am certain she will correct me!
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Other data points of interest related to the “Adoption angle” of this subject.
1. The actual wedding date of SAD and Lolo Soetoro was well concealed until recently. The date was regularly reported to be 1967 or 1968. With Strunk getting the FOIA records on SAD’s passport it was clearly relieved the date was 1965. This timing is important. A child is easier to adopt internationally before the age of 5.
2. The roots of the BC issue are in the Muslim issue. The Muslim issue is related Obama’s time in Indonesia. The issue was not related to his (supposed) birth father’s religion. The “Obama is not a Muslim” frenzy went on until June of 2008. This was when Jim Geraghty of National Review says - hey just show us the BC and show it does say Islam or Muslim on it. He did this in this article -
Exactly 3 days later FTS is launched and its first posting is the COLB - a degraded image from a detailed image from Daily KOS.
Up until then it was the “Muslim” issue that was haunting the campaign. And the “Muslim” issue is rooted in Indonesia since Obama was registered as a Muslim in both schools he attended.
3. The Passport for Pakistan question. That passport has never been disclosed. And this trip was hidden from public view until 4/8/2008.
4. The college records. If Obama leveraged his ‘foreign-ness’ after the age of 18 to get into certain collages or get scholarships he has a giant problem. That would directly imply renouncing American Citizenship. Forget Hawaii, forget Kenya, forget definition of an nbC... if you declare yourself a foreign citizen after the age of 18 by securing (or using) a foreign passport or declare foreign allegiance in an official manner (as in indicating your are a foreign citizen when applying to college or for scholarships) you have forfeited your US Citizenship.
On these last 2 items. Obama could get a pass on the passport. If you are a ‘dual citizen’ which is what he has claimed for Kenya/Britain until age 23 then using another passport may not automatically DQ you as a US citizen. But if you apply to college or for a scholarship - IN THE US - and indicate you are a foreign citizen, while hiding or ignoring your US citizenship status then you have voluntarily given up your US citizenship.
The other data point that fits this issue is the Social Security number issue and apparent forged Selective Service documents. If Obama was living as a foreign national in his late teens and early 20s he would not have had to register for the draft and he would not have had a normal US Social Security number.
HRS 118-17.7 (at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0007.htm ) says that when an adoption takes place a new birth certificate is created and the original is sealed. This doesn’t require any amendment. If the adoption is set aside the original birth certificate is restored and the adoptive birth certificate is sealed. So when there’s an adoption nothing is amended. There are just 2 different birth certificates and whichever one is in effect is the one that is accessible to the HDOH; the other is sealed and cannot be accessed without a court order.
I have asked to see the court order by which the HDOH was authorized to see Obama’s original BC and was told there was no record responsive to my request. If so, then what Fukino talked about seeing (in her July 2009 announcement) would have to be the last status of Obama. It also means that the “original birth certificate” she said they have on record (in her Oct 2008 announcement) would have to be his current status as well - under the name of Barack Hussein Obama II.
In the case where the actual paternity of the child is changed the original BC is amended, but then that BC is sealed. A new birth certificate showing the new paternity is created. My understanding is that a new certificate would not show any amendment having occurred, since the point of the new birth certificate is to hide embarrassing information.
So whatever amendment shows on Obama’s current birth certificate, it doesn’t regard paternity, adoption, illegitimacy, or a sex change. Those cases get a brand-new birth certificate, with no amendments noted and the legal validity of the birth certificate intact.