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To: Danae

The record becomes “Amended” and has to state such on the OCLB. Hawaii has statutiorially admitted Obama has an Amended record. IT is one way we know the FactCheck COLB is a fake, it doesn’t have “Amended” anywhere on it.

Now, if someone disolves an adoption, and Obama could have done so, the record would have been amended again. This would all bave been kept in the same file. Butterdezillion has lots of information on this. If I am incorrect on any of that, I am certain she will correct me!

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Other data points of interest related to the “Adoption angle” of this subject.

1. The actual wedding date of SAD and Lolo Soetoro was well concealed until recently. The date was regularly reported to be 1967 or 1968. With Strunk getting the FOIA records on SAD’s passport it was clearly relieved the date was 1965. This timing is important. A child is easier to adopt internationally before the age of 5.

2. The roots of the BC issue are in the Muslim issue. The Muslim issue is related Obama’s time in Indonesia. The issue was not related to his (supposed) birth father’s religion. The “Obama is not a Muslim” frenzy went on until June of 2008. This was when Jim Geraghty of National Review says - hey just show us the BC and show it does say Islam or Muslim on it. He did this in this article -

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/9490/obama-could-debunk-some-rumors-releasing-his-birth-certificate

Exactly 3 days later FTS is launched and its first posting is the COLB - a degraded image from a detailed image from Daily KOS.

Up until then it was the “Muslim” issue that was haunting the campaign. And the “Muslim” issue is rooted in Indonesia since Obama was registered as a Muslim in both schools he attended.

3. The Passport for Pakistan question. That passport has never been disclosed. And this trip was hidden from public view until 4/8/2008.

4. The college records. If Obama leveraged his ‘foreign-ness’ after the age of 18 to get into certain collages or get scholarships he has a giant problem. That would directly imply renouncing American Citizenship. Forget Hawaii, forget Kenya, forget definition of an nbC... if you declare yourself a foreign citizen after the age of 18 by securing (or using) a foreign passport or declare foreign allegiance in an official manner (as in indicating your are a foreign citizen when applying to college or for scholarships) you have forfeited your US Citizenship.

On these last 2 items. Obama could get a pass on the passport. If you are a ‘dual citizen’ which is what he has claimed for Kenya/Britain until age 23 then using another passport may not automatically DQ you as a US citizen. But if you apply to college or for a scholarship - IN THE US - and indicate you are a foreign citizen, while hiding or ignoring your US citizenship status then you have voluntarily given up your US citizenship.

The other data point that fits this issue is the Social Security number issue and apparent forged Selective Service documents. If Obama was living as a foreign national in his late teens and early 20s he would not have had to register for the draft and he would not have had a normal US Social Security number.


103 posted on 01/20/2011 10:18:47 AM PST by bluecat6
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To: bluecat6

Interesting clues.

SCOTUS needs to deal with whether a person can still Constitutionally be a “natural born citizen” if that person is NO LONGER a US citizen. Can a person be a non-citizen and a “natural born citizen” at the same time?

SCOTUS needs to rule on that, which is another reason why any eligibility bill needs to require documentation regarding CITIZENSHIP.

It is interesting to note, also, that the secretary who took notes at the meeting where the media heads explained to the on-air personalities that they had been threatened by Obama’s lawyers if they reported on certain things noted among those specific things any oath of loyalty. Why would an oath of loyalty be a forbidden topic if there wasn’t such a thing? Seems like Soros/Obama were concerned about the Indonesian angle, which suggests there is a “there” there.

But until we get at the actual records we don’t really know what all we’re dealing with. It’s WAY past time that these records were opened up.


112 posted on 01/20/2011 10:44:05 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bluecat6

Religion isn’t listed on a BC.


140 posted on 01/20/2011 2:16:51 PM PST by Jedidah
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