Posted on 01/19/2011 1:12:32 PM PST by DrewsMum
Text of H.R. 299: To repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education...
(Excerpt) Read more at govtrack.us ...
1. No denial based on preexisting condition;
2. 'Children' can remain on their parent's health insurance until they're 25 years old, and;
3. Health insurance can be purchased across state lines.
This would steal their most popular selling points and open the system up to cost-reducing competition without the other 2,000 pages of bureaucracy and federal mandates.
Well, I would knock the 25 to 21 unless in school and carry the max to 25.
I would also add tort reform which will place lifetime cap of 5 million plus health cost and punishment for fraudulent claims.
That is my congressman and fellow church-member!
That's all well and good, but the reason they are excluded in the first place is to allow the assessment of risk (that something might happen) In their case, something already has happened.
The instant-high-claims patients (prexisting conditions) will need to have their claims paid from a different fund, or the premiums for the otherwise healthy insurance clients will go through the roof.
If you don't have a high risk pool in place, the resultant product will no longer be insurance.
I thought the pro-life Dems were molified by having abortion removed from Obamacare.
“bills should be understandable”
Unfortunately, bills have to be written to insert very specific language, often into existing laws. Without the previous law that is being modified in hand, it is very hard to follow what is being done. Also one needs to know all the definitions of special terms that are used in the writing of the law. Look at the piece of legislation that Ron Paul introduced last May.
See Comment 27 for link. At the beginning he gives a narrative explanation of what the bill is supposed to accomplish. Even there I have some difficulty understanding exactly what is to be accomplished. Then go down to the actual bill and you will see that it is even harder to follow what is being done.
I heard a fascinating discussion on radio today. A man has gone to a number of places to examine innovative and experimental programs to cut health care costs. He has written a book and an article in this month’s New Yorker magazine.
In Atlantic City there are apparently 2 casino workers unions. One union had the choice of good health insurance or wage increases. They chose health care and as a result their wages have been frozen for several years. The hotels were also upset that their share of costs were rising. They agreed to developed a special program for the 10% of insured who were costing the most. This 10% went to the same doctors regularly, received more focused medical care and counseling for healthy behavior. Smoking was reduced by 2/3rds and costs were reduced 30%. No change in costs was found with the other Atlantic City union/management group nor with similar folk in Las Vegas.
I understand that, and your suggestion is good, but we’re going to end up with it anyway - this is our chance to do the least damage.
“HR 299 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 299
To repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, repeal the 7.5 percent threshold on the deduction for medical expenses, provide for increased funding for high-risk pools, allow acquiring health insurance across State lines, and allow for the creation of association health plans.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 18, 2011
Mr. BROUN of Georgia introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, Education and the Workforce, Appropriations, the Judiciary, Natural Resources, House Administration, and Rules, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
To repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, repeal the 7.5 percent threshold on the deduction for medical expenses, provide for increased funding for high-risk pools, allow acquiring health insurance across State lines, and allow for the creation of association health plans.”
Sounds good to me.
Does no one ever read the link anymore? I remember a time when one would be excoriated for not reading the link.
BTW, this is the “replace” part of Repeal and Replace...and committee assignments. Seven committees...dang good!
While they are thinking of changing the IRS 1040, I wish they would allow a deduction for anyone providing full time care for someone with Alzheimer’s, parapleigic, or similar severe conditions. They only allow a deduction for BLIND. Well, I can tell you after 3 years of 24/7/365 care of my late husband with Alzheimers, blind would have been a piece of cake by comparison.
NO replacement! NO gov’t healthcare!
Silly girl...it’s not meant to help anyone.
It’s meant to take control.
They were just dressing it up so that they could take it to the party........without reading the actual bill, and while throwing bones...bribes...to those who were reluctant to go along with them.
It needed to be passed so that we could learn what was in it.
People like you and your husband need REAL reform...not this crap fest that the dems tried to sell.
I’m so sorry for the loss of your husband.
Are you referring to what I was. I was referring to the Republican idea of eliminating the 7.5% deductible from the Schedule A of the IRS 1040. What did you think I was referring to? I was just adding this idea as another possible change in the 1040 for this House to consider.
The isea is that you do not sign up for Death Care, you go the the ER for treatement, they send you a bill along with a government notice that you are also fined 10 grand. AND they will be empowered to collect it.
Thats fascism.
Not only that, if you are geriatric with a terminal illness, they let you die in the ER or send you home with pain meds, the ER bill and the fine.
The only way you would get life extending care is to have signed up for the Death Care plan,and start calling your Senator to intervene so you can get care beyond the standard Dr. Berwick dictated rationed care. That way, if you are a liberal fascist, your life is extended, and if you ar a conservative............adios..into the grave buddy! One less vote against the regime from baby boomers.
(But we am making plans now for my neighbor to vote on my behalf long after I am gone. .just like the dems do? LOL.)
Yes, the Death Care bill is just wonderful./S Its a fascist law which Americans should exercise civil disobedience over, get together, raise money, and build thier own hospitals off shore, or set up an off shore fund to get treatment outside the country.
Wed could do it in Caadaor Mexico. “ The International Freedom Health Care Medical Insurance Plan”. Operate it out of Montreal,Toronto and Vancouver, which have some of the worlds finest hospitals, and we can expand their physical construction to take care of the increase in traffic from the USA. Whats more, there is nothing illegal about it.The Death Care bill does not apply ex juris the USA.
This is an excellent opportunity for a few entrepreneurs.
Well we have it, and you'd better hope to God you don't end up with it.
Maine virtually has one beaten-down carrier (BC/BS) and they have offered to drop the individual market, after years of death-spiral premium increases.
An family can expect premium of close to $400 per person per month...$1600 per month for a family of four....some higher than that.
You willing to pay that?
There are two issues with guaranteed issue (pre-existing) and real insurance.
One is that people with pre-existing conditions cost more. It’s probably in the 12-25% range, not 40% to 50% - to start with.
But once it is in, there is no incentive to buy insurance. Just wait until you’re at the E.R. door, then apply. This is known as moral hazard.
Imagine waiting until your car is stolen (but before the theft is reported) to buy auto insurance. You get the picture.
The way to fix health insurance is to correctly apply the Commerce Clause, and not allow individual states to have laws that de facto, force smaller insurance companies out. Vermont, last time I checked, allowed a small amount of insurance to be sold without following all the state’s mandates. Just end the mandates.
California is especially bad, as is New York. Many insurers won’t write policies in New York, period, as they can’t afford to hire the many lawyers and clerks needed to comply with the law.
The Demonrat Congressmen who fell for that have something in common:
They're known as ex-Congressmen.
Insurance companies take preexisting conditions all the time. Go work for a large company that offers insurane and you get insurance with any condition no problem. You think everyone at IBM, Exxon, etc are all healthy?
THANK YOU!!! I didn’t wanna be rude to people, but people don’t even read the intro, much less the link.....they assumed this was H.R. 2 .....that was passed yesterdayday.....this is the REPLACEMENT bill....
The left is so good at attaching one thing to another. How about we try that! Let’s see, they want the debt ceiling raised. We want spending cuts and Obamacare gone. How about we put it all in one little bundled bill, make it short and sweet: End Obamacare, go back to 2000 spending, raise debt ceiling. Everytime the left says no, send it again. At some point, they will have to cave. No lawyerspeak. This is it. Take it or leave it, no compromise. We do this or we do nothing. While they wail and cry, our team can work on a new healthcare bill that might work.
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