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To: dirtboy; Wonder Warthog; Mr. K

Couldn’t we drop the Bush Derangement Syndrome and talk about what he actually said?

He has some interesting observations in here, and I think they’re worthy of discussion.


14 posted on 01/17/2011 8:29:11 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

I think the conservative position on immigration should be that we have no problem with an open border if we eliminate the welfare state giveaways that encourage people to come here for goodies.

I personally think that we’d be better off with immigrants who are part of the system rather than immigrants that hide in the shadows. I do think we do ourselves a disservice when we make it appear that we just don’t like immigrants, period, which is the way it’s portrayed, even if that’s not what we intend. We can argue until we’re blue in the face that all we want to do is secure the border, and the media will always portray that as “Republicans hate Hispanics.”

Why not turn it around and argue for open borders but use that argument to show the irresponsibility of the socialist policies we have in place? Make it a package deal - we grant amnesty to all who are already here and we open the border, and in the same bill, we eliminate or drastically reduce socialist giveaways. Make the Democrats play some defense on the issue.


21 posted on 01/17/2011 8:45:10 AM PST by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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To: livius

It’s hardly Bush derangement syndrome to say we don’t need a third Bush in the White House. American politics has turned into too much of a hereditary dynasty as it is.


25 posted on 01/17/2011 8:56:54 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: livius

Thank you! I was beginning to wonder if any of the commenters had actually read the interview.


29 posted on 01/17/2011 9:05:32 AM PST by Wombat Ark
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To: livius
Couldn’t we drop the Bush Derangement Syndrome and talk about what he actually said? He has some interesting observations in here, and I think they’re worthy of discussion.

I agree, livius. I don't at all agree with EVERYTHING he said in the article (I read the piece, unlike probably 95% of the people posting here)...and he had some GOOD and some BAD stuff to say.

RD

45 posted on 01/17/2011 10:53:24 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: livius
Over-all a sensible article, expresses a point of view I have supported in the past. But he just can't kick the lure of legalization, the crap about bringing people "out of the shadows." A poison pill in an otherwise interesting proposal.
52 posted on 01/17/2011 12:42:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: livius
"Couldn’t we drop the Bush Derangement Syndrome and talk about what he actually said?"

Anything he says regarding Hispanics is to be ignored. As to "Bush Derangement Syndrome", I hate neither Bush, I'm judging their lack of success, ESPECIALLY Daddy Bush. His failure in Gulf War I to drive into Iraq and depose Saddam led DIRECTLY to Gulf War II and to the election of Obama.

Both Georges were nice enough guys who simply didn't have what it takes to be successful as President.

53 posted on 01/17/2011 12:42:35 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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