Posted on 01/14/2011 7:24:06 PM PST by Tolsti2
YouTube video that prompted the suspension of Tucson shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in September was released Friday by officials at Pima Community College and included rambling statements such as "We are examining the torture of students" and "This is genocide in America."
The video, no longer on the website, was released to The Times following a public records request and offers the extended example of Loughner's voice.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
I’d agree with you, but..
Drugs are only used to affect the brain directly.
They do ‘Cause’ behavior more than inanimate objects more than pieces of metal that you don’t injest.
There’s a huge difference between access to a gun and using a drug on the brain and thinking, right? That’s all I’m saying.
That’s terribly old btw... That you consider using drugs as the something inanimate is a terrible argument. Terrible.
It’s like comparing a knife to the heart vs a knife on the table.
The drugs distorted his perception of reality. Where the heck were you on the Conscious Dreaming.........He was walking around thinking it the same as a dream.
Dave’s not here.
If they listen long enough to what he has to say, maybe they’ll hear him dissing Sarah Palin. What a hoot that would be!
What he said was non-sense but it wasn’t any more non-sensical than many college students or disaffect types. He did not sound stoned or intoxicated.
I'm not surprised this video hits the other themes he 'wrote' about on Youtube and in a similar structure or manner. I don't think this can be taken as being an example of how he normally was and not a performance piece.
I'm not saying he didn't have problems, but is he 'insane' in a legal sense of unable to know right from wrong?
I don't see enough in the publicly available material. He was clearly functional... able to drive, able to handle a traffic stop by an officer, able to buy ammo, able to order a cab, able to get the cash to pay the driver...
Reposting my previous comment from above:
If you want to see something amazing, check out this video. These are extremely liberal war protesters from the group 9/11 Truth who are very upset with Gabby Giffords over her support for the war and her refusal to support the impeachment of George W. Bush. They call her a war criminal and say that she's hiding the "lies" about 9/11/2001. Pay particular attention to the guy at around 1:45 and what he says. He's an obvious pothead wacko - the same sort of guy that Jared Loughner appears to be, although Loughner clearly has less social skills than this guy, if that is possible. Now, I'm not accusing the 9/11 Truth movement of anything. I don't think that the people in this group had anything to do with the shooting on Saturday, nor do I think that they should be prevented from accusing Giffords of being a war criminal who is sending young men to be shot in the head without justification. I'm just offering a possible alternate explanation for what happened. What if that idea that Giffords is sending young men to be shot in the head clicked with Loughner in a way that mixed with his already existing anger towards Giffords - and he decided that he was going to pay her back in kind? Do I have any evidence that that is what happened? No. Just this video, which is WAY more than any Democrat has linking Sarah Palin to this.
9/11 Truthers Protest Giffords
Now, check out the video at this website, which is a video made by Loughner in his own words as he walks around the Pima Community College campus. Notice that he talks about how we are engaged in two wars, and that "the war we are in right now is currently illegal under the Constitution."
So, now we have a video showing that among all the weird thoughts rattling around in this guy's head, at least one of them was directly related to the idea that our involvement in a war is illegal under the Constitution, which is the same thing that the protestors in the other video believe. So, now we have a direct link between their ideas and his ramblings. These people think she is a war criminal and think she is responsible for getting young men "shot in the head" by sending them over there to fight, and then a young man with an unstable mind who shares their views and happens to have a pre-existing grudge against Giffords decides to shoot her in the head. I think this is a plausible scenario and probably pretty close to the truth.
I'm waiting for apologies from anyone who thought that conservatives had anything to do with this.
Bump.
And the drugs entered his body... how? Did the drugs do it?
And how did those drugs get into his system? Did the drugs ‘do’ that?
Good find.....that sure bust the libatrd theme that a libtard couldnt have done this....as libtards only hate conservatives....
Yeah...not so much....
It’s free will up until they use.
Sounds like schizophrenic word salad to me. They create words all the time and associate deep meaning to them.
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That might be it because “shaboozie” sounds like it would go well with “abra cadabra shaboozie”! Then rabbits are pulled out of a hat or something. Rabbits eat salad, too!
Hey, we might be on to something here. S/just for fun. ;)
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