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1 posted on 01/14/2011 5:21:00 AM PST by markomalley
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Why would the unions care? Their member have big fat pensions...........that are going broke?................


2 posted on 01/14/2011 5:22:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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The left should not fear about President Obama doing anything to Social Security.

Ponzi schemes collapse on their own.


3 posted on 01/14/2011 5:23:38 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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They SHOULD worry.

It’s pretty clear to me that he hates useless old white people who are still around and collecting benefits.

I’d worry if I were them, too.


4 posted on 01/14/2011 5:25:11 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: markomalley
use a different calculation for cost-of-living adjustments.

No cost of living increase yet under the zero administration's 2 years. How do you go downward from that?

Don't tell me, I already know.

5 posted on 01/14/2011 5:25:11 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: markomalley

I would be willing to opt out of collecting Social Security and they can keep everythig I put into it- if I can stop making payments into it right now.

Medicare and Medicaid too. There is not going to be any health care when I reach that age (at this rate) anyway... so screw it. I am going to prepare a hole in the ground and just tell my family to shovel me into it when I am too old to take care of myself.

I DO NOT want to be in a hospital room connected to IV’s at several thousand dollars per day until I die anyway


7 posted on 01/14/2011 5:26:55 AM PST by Mr. K
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Why is the left REALLY concerned about Social Security? Are they really concerned about Republicans cutting off benefits to the elderly (which isn’t going to happen), OR are they worried about losing their control over individuals? After all, if We the People seize our right back to save for our own retirement, then we won’t be beholden to Medicare and Social Security in our golden years.

My FRiends, it’s all about control.


9 posted on 01/14/2011 5:29:46 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: markomalley

My worry in this is that the president and democrats will try to goad Republicans into taking the lead on “cutting SS & Medicare”. And then when Republicans do take the lead, dems will villify them for it. I hope the Republicans recognize it as a trap. The Republicans should take their clue from the presidents State of the Union speech and his budget. If he encorages SS & Medicare cuts then they can get involved. If not, then they should work to reduce discretionary spending.

Remember, the democrats and public unions get a lot of power from discretionary spending of our tax dollars. If Republicans work to cut entitlements and lose their majority doing so, it will just give the democrats the opportunity to spend more money on the discretionary spending that entrenches them in power.

Avoid the trap, Republicans...let 0bama take the lead on entitlment cuts. Let him tour the country (like Bush did with his SS proposal) trying to encourage everyone to agree to “his proposal” before you jump on the bandwagon.


11 posted on 01/14/2011 5:38:02 AM PST by NRG1973
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In the meantime unions are killing jobs and state budgets with their overgenerous benefits and perks.


12 posted on 01/14/2011 5:43:29 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: markomalley; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Now that Republicans control the House and Obama is facing reelection, the political dynamic is different and liberal groups fear the president might be willing to cut a deal on Social Security. Labor unions and liberal groups worry Obama could endorse a boost in the retirement age or a change in cost-of-living adjustments when he discusses strategies for reducing the federal deficit later this month.

And what would Republicans get out of this ‘deal’? Or worse yet, what (else) would they have to give in on to get it?

Republicans walking the plank on SS right now sounds like a bad idea. As with tax cuts ‘for the rich’ Obama would claim that Republicans forced him to cut Social Security.

19 posted on 01/14/2011 6:22:13 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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They need to do something about the system or it will collapse.

Nevertheless, the GOP had better be VERY CAREFUL about how they deal with that viper in the Oval Office. He’s a REAL political animal. Don’t put it past him to shift the blame for any adverse fall-out to the GOP and then say he was forced by them to do it, later on in a political campaing.

Any changes to SS need to have the fingerprints of BOTH political parties all over it so any public resentment is equally distributed.


26 posted on 01/14/2011 6:34:40 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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“These groups are concerned about Obama’s taciturn response to the proposal by his fiscal commission to gradually increase the retirement age and use a different calculation for cost-of-living adjustments.”

The bastard already did that! There hasn't been a COL raise since the Commie bastard was elected.

32 posted on 01/14/2011 7:04:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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Liberals know that Social Security and other entitlement programs are IOUs. If they are not reformed, every single dollar will go to them... think of it as climate change for Big Government.

That ought to concentrate their minds.


36 posted on 01/14/2011 7:23:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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A lot of unions don’t even pay into social security.

Why would they care?


39 posted on 01/14/2011 8:23:28 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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