Posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by paulycy
FYI -
Here are statements from Jim about the future of FreeRepublic.com for those who missed them. They are quite serious.
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"Well, I can say that there are definitely two things that will never happen. 1) Banner ads. 2) Oracle [a completely new database system.] And a third is a total replacement [of the current damaged system.] Don’t have the financial wherewithal."
"To those who wish to leave because of it, see ya."
"If FR dies, that’s that."
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[To: paulycy]
Hey, you want us to get an all new system with all new software and add a few more pricey techs, system programmers and database administrators to keep it all working 100% of the time 24/7/365? Well, start coughing up the big bucks.
It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll. Once you take on a big load of expensive overhead, there’s no going back. As it is, we get a couple thousand donations per quarter averaging about $30 bucks each and there’s no guarantees we can cover this quarter’s expenses much less next quarter. We’re on a pay as we go system and we have zero employees.We just ask for enough to pay the bills.
Throwing more money at the problem won’t solve it. [This latest glitch] was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we’re not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he’s pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he’s an expert in them.
And no, we are not going to throw out our software and rewrite it and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job and not without hiring a staff to build and maintain it and that’s for sure. And we don’t have the financial wherewithal to do any of that anyway. Maybe if we had a couple million bucks at our disposal and a couple years to do it in we could build an iron-clad system. And maybe not.
All I can say is, if someone else can do it better and cheaper, then please step right on up and get ‘er done!! I’ll bow out and retire. Thankyouverymuch.
Hit it boys:
https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/
And no, we have no plans of taking FR commercial. I like it the way it is. Not sure I could handle getting rich.
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- Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2653583/posts?page=168#168
In this case he has to first see that the change is needed.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
If you're asking about ownership, no.
If you're asking if I laid it, NO!
I gave up drinking so I had the money to support FRee Republic, almost...
I’ve never seen an aspiring conservative with an open mind get the zot on FR. Not that I’ve been personally present for each and every sot for the last 8 years.
If anything, I’ve seen zotworthy people last for a long, long time before they finally got the boot up the *** they richly deserved.
:-)
I would guess that would be an impossible task, since so much depends on the individual church, individual church leaders, congregation, location within the city, and country. Who could provide the data on a national level?
There are true generalizations, but when posted, people’s personal specifics would cause them to complain.
I would keep it a private reply to Quix.
“just sayin’” :) ...where’s an emotive when you need one.
Thank you Jim and God bless!
no doubt..there is no competitor to here
Almost? If you actually took the 12 steps, you could probably support FR, several third world countries and me!
I love no edit button. I’m a member (not as busy of course as I am here) on a few other forums and the edit button does allow to correct mistakes, but people can hide behind it too easily.
Here - what’s said is said, and can’t be unsaid; unless the Mods remove it of their own accord, or sometimes will if you ask pretty please...
Nope. And FR is the only place that go after jerks in both parties.
I would guess that would be an impossible task, since so much depends on the individual church, individual church leaders, congregation, location within the city, and country.
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I don’t think it needs to be on a national level, just my experiences from congregation to congregation. Subjective, sure but possibly insightful.
And you are right about congregational and location differences, but that also provides insight.
The churches MrR and I attended in California are vastly different than the churches here in the High Plains.
And I would welcome other peoples opinions on their congregation.
I have attended many churches in many different states and there is SOME continuity in denoms and in states. I would welcome the dialogue.
"Now there are ways to make a system more bullet proof and to build-in back ups and redundancy, etc, so there is almost zero downtime for users, but these are usually reserved for critical operations. And that’s because they cost money. Lots of it."
Hardware is cheap. You are running on MySQL. Perhaps Open Source OSes too. With all that and virtualization, it's no longer really expensive to build redundancy. Any time you decide to ask for some more technical help just let me know. I'm here. You know where I am.
BTW, I don't know about those people complaining about the software. I don't care what it's written in. FR's forum has always been superior IMHO. I prefer it to any other forum software I've seen. Always have. It's simple and doesn't put a lot of garbage in my way.
My friend, FR is far too valuable a resource to adopt such a fatalistic attitude about the existing business model. If it no longer works, then it needs to be upgraded to one that does.
I can tell you have never lived on principle. It is a costly thing.
The liberals constantly think we didn’t hear their message and keep changing their presentation so that we would like it. It is their message we reject, not their methodology.
You also seem to think if we get the right method they will like our message. Not going to happen. The conservative message stands on its own.
VERY WELL PUT.
I love some inclusive things.
Nevertheless . . .
Thanks.
“I don’t think it needs to be on a national level, just my experiences from congregation to congregation. Subjective, sure but possibly insightful.”
I agree, and sent you a private reply saying so.
Darn these “no edit button” people! :)
Most of the complaints about the software arise from features that used to be there but have disappeared, or never worked well in the first place such as the search mechanism. Upgrades were always promised but never delivered.
These things are not major problems but they do continue to hang on unfinished and add to the uncertainty of just how healthy the system really is, looking at it from the outside like we users do.
Well!
Hey Sidebar! Look the other way while I reach over here for the ban button. ;)
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