Posted on 01/10/2011 10:22:46 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from a lawyer who has been in the forefront of the challenge to President Barack Obama's citizenship.
The high court on Monday did not comment in refusing to hear the appeal filed by California lawyer and dentist Orly Taitz. She was contesting a $20,000 fine for filing what a federal judge determined was a frivolous lawsuit.
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Fact: It is **simple** to fully prove one’s natural born citizenship.
Fact: Unanointed Americans routinely prove their natural born citizenship. Unanointed Americans do so for reasons a lot less important than being Commander in Chief of the world's most destructive military since the dawn of creation!
Fact: Obama has **NEVER** proved with all and/or the best evidence his natural born citizenship.
Fact: The only proof Americans have of Obama’s natural born citizenship are Internet images and a few very highly massaged ( masturbated) statements from Lingle and Fukino.
Fact: Obama has gone to considerable effort to prevent the release of a few very **common** documents.
Fact: A **real** natural born citizen would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with the best evidence that they were eligible to be occupying the White House. They would be especially pleased to do it for **any** military person.
Fact: The adorable little tweens ( in their cute spandex costumes) representing the U.S. Olympic gymnastic team are better vetted than Obama! And...None of these little girls command any armies or navies.
My conclusion: Obama won't release these **common** documents willingly. If he did, they would likely show that he is a usurper and a criminal fraud.
I'll look for my hard copy and if I find it I'll quote the relevant part.
I'll look for my printed copy and find the exact quote.
All right.
Why not? Brett Hull played on the US Olympic ice hockey team.
Excellent list! I’d offer one tweak. Obama has gone well beyond ‘considerable effort’ to hide his BC. The lengths he’s gone to conceal it are frankly unnatural—if not downright abnormal. His obsession with keeping it, and so many of his other records, secret would send up a sea of red flags to a psychologist. Why would a highly public figure imagine he still has the right to the extreme privacy of a non-public individual? Most politicians understand, when they throw their hat into the ring, that they’ve voluntarily relinquished many of their private-citizen ‘secrets’. They expect to be asked to produce public records, to be vetted, and even to have ‘embarrassing’ information come out.
Not Obama. He acts like he doesn’t even think the questions should be asked, much less that he should have to answer. A very bizarre attitude on the part of the occupier of the highest and most public office in the land, to say the least.
Part of the problem is that Obama is an extreme malignant narcissist. He doesn’t believe ordinary rules apply to him. He thinks he’s genuinely better than everyone else. Even his closest friends and advisers agree that Obama thinks he is the smartest person in any room. The degree to which that delusion is dangerously abnormal simply cannot be exaggerated.
Another part of the problem is that Obama plays the race card the way the rest of us eat, breathe and sleep. If he ever were pressed on his BC, he would spin it as racist before the ink dried on the request. It may be the one thing he’s genuinely good at: using his race to his advantage.
The final problem, in a nutshell, is that he acts not like a man with some minor ‘embarrassment’ to hide, but like one with a life or death issue to hide. His actions really are that extreme.
For example, take LTC Lakin. Imagine how it must have played out. An adviser comes into Obama’s office.
“Mr. President, under the new Rules of Engagement in Afghanistan—which you strongly support—our men are dying like flies. Morale is at an all time low, and to be honest, you’re not that popular with the troops.
“Now we’ve got this guy, a career officer, highly decorated—an army surgeon, in fact—whom we really need to deploy. He’s got this kooky idea there’s something amiss on your BC. It would be to your advantage to release it. It would spare the officer a court martial, and send a message to the troops on the front line that their CIC respects them and their concerns.
“What do you say?”
Obama: “Hell no; let him rot in Leavenworth. The message I want to send is that nobody questions me or my credentials and gets away with it. I want him made an example of. I want the fear put into those soldiers—nobody else had better question my qualifications or their careers will end in the toilet.”
Now that is not the behavior of a normal, patriotic American. It’s the behavior of a malignant narcissist with way too much to hide.
Iow, it would appeal to his vanity to play the Big Man, and spare Lakin while embarrassing the ‘birthers’. By finally revealing his BC [as an act of mercy to Lakin] he gains all kinds of points with the voters—whose support he’s struggling to line up for 2012—humiliates his detractors, and extends a kingly reprieve to the lowly army surgeon.
Obama passed all that up...for what? For more fuel on the eligibility fire. That doesn’t help him. In every single survey/poll, more and more Americans question his credentials. The time of utility, if there ever was one, in withholding the BC is past. He could not have asked for a better time for the great unveiling than the Lakin trial. That he fought it to the extent of pleading an ‘embarrassment’ on the BC is humiliating not to his detractors, but to him. The ever-shrinking ‘president’ has shrunk again, and commands even less respect than before.
Lose-lose for Obama. And expect more losses to come—take it to the bank.
Obama’s Timeline claims that Mr & Mrs O have used at least 50 different numbers.
I’ll look for my printed copy and find the exact quote.
The Republicans had four years to nail him. That issue alone would have knocked Obama out of the race, if proven in a court of law.
It’s called “Social Security Fraud” and it’s a felony and an impeachable offense.
Penalties for the violation of the Social Security Act
Any person found guilty for Social Security Fraud shall be:
• Fined under the United States Code
• Imprisoned for not more than five years or both
The federal court in sentencing the defendant may in addition to any other penalty order restitution.
So?...You are admitting that Obama wasn’t vetted! Wow!
This is progress and a step in the right direction. A few more baby steps and you will be a fully initiated birther! ;-)
The fact is Obama has been politely asked by some military officers and other citizens to prove his natural born citizenship. Instead of doing that cheerfully, promptly, and with good natured **HONOR**, Obama has gone to considerable effort to prevent the release of some really basic documents.
The polls show that growing numbers of American simply can not state with conviction that their president is a natural born citizen and eligible to be occupying the White House.
I’m sure that if any court of law had ruled that Obama should provide proof of his eligibility to any member of the US military, the President would have politely complied with that order, but its not a good idea for any president to establish a precedent of having junior officers challenge the Commander-in-Chief, that could lead to chaos in the chain of command.
Now if any member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of Defense, or General John Petraeus, when he was Commander of Central Command, had asked for Obama’s birth certificate and proof of his natural born citizenship, that would be different.
By the way, of the six current members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, five of them were appointed by President George W. Bush and only one was appointed by President Barack Hussein Obama, General John Amos, Commandant of the United States Marine Corps.
Those public opinion “polls” can translate into votes AGAINST Obama in the next presidential election for his failure to be transparent about his life. However it still remains the job of Obama’s political opponents to provide the vetting of him and expose any information that damages his candidacy or his term in office.
So, in YOUR mind, you believe that she was confusing Obama (whose alleged signature is on the letter) with her health director and that she thought a letter published by the hospital was instead a new release issued by HER department of health?? Really?? This is what YOU think??
I’m not sure how a person sounds “forgetful.”
How else do you explain that she merely misspoke instead of lied. Isn't that a matter of being forgetful ... saying things you don't remember accurately?? How do you reconcile misspeaking with her statements claiming that Obama's birth at Kapiolani is 'established' and is a 'fact'??
I said it must be frustrating and difficult for someone who campaigned for John McCain and who delivered one of Sarah Palin’s endorsement speeches at the Republican National Convention to have to be backing up Obama.
It wasn't frustrating at all. She didn't back up Obama at those events. Her health director didn't issue a news release until Lingle was done campaigning for McCain.
I am acknowledging that several words in Governor Lingle’s statement were not based in fact: “...saying that the President was in fact born at Kapiolani Hospital...”
Yes, and now, thanks to this acknowledgment, several people can bookmark your words here in case you decide to quote Lingle again.
What if Obama’s grandparents had a perfectly legitimate Hawaii birth certificate, complete with Physician’s signature and hospital name placed in the files of the Hawaii Health Bureau back in 1961 to cover up a Canadian birth for Stanley’s child and Lingle and Fukino have simply reported what is actually there?
Good question. Why, then, do you make excuses to oppose those ask for full disclosure??
Obama's whole life is a list of excuses and total speculation. Thanks to his lack of integrity, transparency and FULL disclosure, that's all we have. Boehner didn't identify a specific statement he was responding to. Your speculation is no better than mine on trying to figure out what he was referring to. I was HELPING you or other faithers by illustrating other possibile sources for what he thought he heard.
What happened to the claims made by birthers that once the Republicans took control of the House that subpoenas will be issued for Obama’s BC?
Feel free to show some of these claims. I can recall a bunch of paranoid Democrats fretting publicly about Republicans starting investigations, but I haven't heard much in regards to the strawman you're trying to pass off.
So, in YOUR mind, you believe that she was confusing Obama (whose alleged signature is on the letter) with her health director and that she thought a letter published by the hospital was instead a new release issued by HER department of health?? Really?? This is what YOU think??
A few Internet postings and highly massaged statements from Lingle and Fukino don't add up to all of the best evidence.
There's no tangible proof of this claim. What Obama posted shows no signs of being certified. Second, the state of Hawaii has recently admitted through UIPA requests and a newspaper interview that Obama's alleged COLB is absolutely NOT legally certified. This IS fact and NOT speculation.
A hard copy of the BC he posted is admissible evidence in judicial, administrative or legislative proceedings all 50 states and the federal government.
Notice how he has NEVER presented a hard copy of the alleged COLB to ANY judicial, administrative or legal proceeding. The only verifiable evidence shows that Obama's COLB is not legal and would be worthless in any proceeding (except for fooling Obamapologists and faithers).
The Republican governor of Hawaii said he was born in Hawaii. These are all facts, not speculation.
The Republican governor also lied and said her director of health issued a news release saying Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital. Her credibility is zero. Her reliability is zero. It may be a fact that she made this claim, but what is NOT a fact is that Boehner heard her make this claim. You offer nothing but excuses and baseless speculation when it should be unnecessary to do so. Simly demand FULL DISCLOSURE.
In case you aren't aware, you just responded. And in case you also weren't aware, what you resonded to is based on what YOU said. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Human beings misspeak sometimes, particulary under the pressure of the moment.
The excuses getting sillier and flimsier by the minute. Please elaborate on what kind of pressure Lingle was under??
Since every single day on FreeRepublic I continue to call for a criminal Grand Jury investigation of Obama’s eligibility with subpoena power, I don’t think that you can accuse me of opposing those who ask for full disclosure.
You said, "Obama released a copy of his COLB in 2008. The fact that some people don’t accept that document as authentic is no different from what we might soon see if a long form is released by Abercrombie’s administration." A comment like makes an excuse to oppose full disclosure. Your grand jury meme is your fallback when you can't support your other arguments.
Nice punt. When you can’t support your argument, start whining about so-called ‘birther fantasyland.’ Thanks for conceding.
I guess the truth hurts.
They brandish their demonstrated ignorance of the law with pride because, frankly, because they have nothing else. If they attempt to engage with the reality of the law, that will force them to confront unpalatable questions. Like
why no legal, political, or military authority has given the time of day to this nonsense. Or why those of us who are rational on the subject have successfully predicted in advance the outcome of 100% of these cases, often in significant detail. Or why no Republican leader from John McCain through Dick Cheney to John Boehner has taken advantage of the opportunity to advance this misbegotten cause.
All they can do is construct their school girl dreams of Obama in the Oval Office sweating out their latest case, the one that will finally break the dam. Or hyperventilate about how everyone, and at this point it pretty much has to be EVERYONE, is in on this huge conspiracy, which they flatter themselves they alone have penetrated. They talk about Little League and Vattel because they have nothing else to talk about. They trade in repetitious assertion immune to thought because reality has offered not one single shred of confirmation to their hopes.
Basically, they are working out their own psychological problems in an odd way. As therapy, I hope it works for them.
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