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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords
Mother Jones ^ | 10 January, 2011 | Nick Bauman

Posted on 01/10/2011 8:35:17 AM PST by SE Mom

At 2:00 a.m. on Saturday—about eight hours before he allegedly killed six people and wounded 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), in Tucson—Jared Lee Loughner phoned an old and close friend with whom he had gone to high school and college. The friend, Bryce Tierney, was up late watching TV, but he didn't answer the call. When he later checked his voice mail, he heard a simple message from Loughner: "Hey man, it's Jared. Me and you had good times. Peace out. Later."

That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: "They hadn't released the name, but I said, 'Holy shit, I think it's Jared that did it.'" ...

In messages on MySpace last month, Loughner declared, "I'll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow." He also noted on the website, "I don't feel good: I'm ready to kill a police officer! I can say it." ...

"I think the reason he did it was mainly to just promote chaos. He wanted the media to freak out about this whole thing. He wanted exactly what's happening. He wants all of that."

(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: brycetierney; giffords; jaredlaughner; loughner; motherjones; tucson
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To: Uncle Ike

Me too dear, me too :(


141 posted on 01/10/2011 2:02:30 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: caww
*** .once a child is leagal age the laws work against parents who might want to institutionalize their children. ***

Yes, I know that, even before they reach legal age parent's options are limited. And its thanks to the same left wing kooks now blaming 'the Right', who didn't want these wacko's institutionalized because: "They Have Rights". That's why I said, "back in the good old days." Back then, family members, like parents, along with with a doctor(s) could have an 'adult' put away for 'Observation' to start off. (insane people don't think they're crazy so they sure as 'heck' won't commit themselves to a 'Hospital'.).

So thanks to hand wringing do-gooders - and the ACLU - we have psychos walking the street and legally able to buy a gun, and now people are dead. But hell, if he didn't have a gun he could have used a friggen Hammer, a Screw Driver, or a knife to kill people. The point is - he was out in public freely walking among us.

142 posted on 01/10/2011 2:06:11 PM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Condor51

Yes, I can agree to what you’re saying here. I think our laws no longer represent protecting the people, as you know also, rather they protect criminals, the insane, the weirdos and the nutcases at every level...and unfortunately many of them know this.

I agree also that if didn’t have a gun he would have used something else..a bomb..or whatever. He was out to do violence either way. And one doesn’t have to be insane to desire that either.

Thanks for your posts.


143 posted on 01/10/2011 2:19:01 PM PST by caww
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To: publana

How do you know they didn’t? Every case is different, so to compare yours to this one is not useful. Also, since the shooting, we have all been appalled at the Left’s rush to judgment, so we should be cautious about doing the same. I see current news reports that the parents are in some kind of stand off with the FBI. I will withhold judgment until I know more.


144 posted on 01/10/2011 2:30:05 PM PST by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SE Mom
Well..... I found something on the mom, Amy Loughner.

Over in the OLD ARCHIVES at news.google.com .... I did a simple search, simply for LOUGHNER ARIZONA -- that was all, I didn't even search any of their full names.

Amy was a Park Manager, I don't know if she still is.


145 posted on 01/10/2011 2:31:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SE Mom
I messed up the html on the url, sorry.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=arizona+loughner&sa=N&tbs=nws:1,ar:1

Hope this one works, LOL

146 posted on 01/10/2011 2:34:30 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SE Mom
Wasn't able to find anything on either Randy, or Randy Lee, or Jared or Amy Joanne, but here is the results for "AMY LOUGHNER":

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=N&tbs=nws%3A1%2Car%3A1&q=%22amy+loughner%22

147 posted on 01/10/2011 2:51:58 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SE Mom

His mother was busy being a high-level bureaucrat in Pima County.


148 posted on 01/10/2011 3:01:16 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Wolfstar

Good point. I was making the assumption the boy hasn’t had treatment because he was issued a gun license. His state may be different.


149 posted on 01/10/2011 3:04:43 PM PST by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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To: 21twelve

I wonder if they are “scrubbing” his room and the house so he will have a positive image homelife.


150 posted on 01/10/2011 3:15:02 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Wolfstar

I self-reported the post, btw. Hopefully it will be removed.


151 posted on 01/10/2011 3:24:02 PM PST by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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To: Wolfstar

I self-reported the post, btw. Hopefully it will be removed.


152 posted on 01/10/2011 3:24:02 PM PST by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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To: SatinDoll

*ping* - here’s a URL to a few news stories in the PAST about Amy Loughner, a park manager in AZ.


153 posted on 01/10/2011 3:29:32 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: longtermmemmory; publana
Did you guys know this???

"Jared's dad, Randy Loughner, works for the State of Arizona's Child Protective Services. The authorities have been sticklers for keeping that one under wraps."

Freeper satindoll just informed me of this in another thread.

154 posted on 01/10/2011 3:31:07 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Wolfstar
Unless it comes out that the parents were abusive or neglectful, it's as much of a mistake to blame the parents for something like this as it is to blame conservatives.

True, if he truly is schizophrenic, which remains to be determined. That said, I think it is quite likely.

I didn't know it manifests later rather than sooner. Thanks for the input.

155 posted on 01/10/2011 3:32:02 PM PST by SteamShovel (Beware the RINO-VIRUS...It will kill the TEA Party movement.)
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To: Condor51; caww; Wolfstar; Candor7
Did you know:

"Jared's dad, Randy Loughner, works for the State of Arizona's Child Protective Services. The authorities have been sticklers for keeping that one under wraps."

Freeper satindoll just informed me of this in another thread.

156 posted on 01/10/2011 3:33:13 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie; SatinDoll

Satindoll is a steady Freeper. You can make book on it if she discovered it.


157 posted on 01/10/2011 4:06:01 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Deo volente; SE Mom
Chaos? Hell, the 112 Conogress got off to a roaring start by allowing this murdering nut job to bring Congress to a halt for a week. Congress is obliging the perps desire for chaos.

Buck up you RINOS. Shame!

158 posted on 01/10/2011 4:11:08 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
Can you imagine that not one person in Tucson, AZ has mentioned this to the MSM, or if they did, no one chose to report it?

Did Randy Lee Loughner OR Randy Loughner, whatever he's know by ever try to get his obviously psychotic son some professional help?????

Surely he knew where to go for help for Jared since he works for Child Protective Services, right???

159 posted on 01/10/2011 4:11:31 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Save for later read


160 posted on 01/10/2011 4:24:23 PM PST by Dream Warrior (Never underestimate the POWER of an ARROGANT Marxist President and Congress!)
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