Posted on 01/10/2011 4:14:22 AM PST by GlockThe Vote
Demons attack in three ways,
oppression, obsession, and possession.
That is why when I saw the picture of the shooter, I was close to being sick myself, sensing “evil”.
That is why it is very important not to get involve with occult stuff that will open up “doors”.
I would have to further read on it, but if the priest is not trained to be able to do exocisms, forgive my spelling, and I do not have all the info, it could get REALLY very bad and even the priest could be attacked.
If there is an “obssession”, again forgive my spelling, and according to another poster, that is one of the three levels of demonic attack.
I do NOT believe that he was... "demonically possessed," I believe it is obvious that he was mentally ill and nobody intervened.
Now... insofar as the MSM... it has occurred to me many times over the weekend that much of the MSM currently appears to be an Instrument of Evil. YMMV.
Have you seen this?
I guess you'd have to throw Jesus and His apostles in there, too, huh? The word "pagan" really doesn't belong, then, does it?
Yep. Note tagline.
And your diagnosis is based upon...what, exactly?
Without actually seeing the patient in person, or reviewing a history compiled by another professional psychiatrist,or clinical psychologist, how would you know whether this person were schizophrenic, exhibiting symptoms of MPD (multiple personality disorder), or actually responding to an external force?
More generally, what long-term experience can you cite as basis for your seeming contention that this is a purely psychological, not a metaphysical problem?
Have you any prolonged experience with actual schizophrenic cases, or patients suffering with MPD? Are you aware of the differences between the exhibition of an alternate personality, and the manifestation of actual demonic influence?
Making the assertion that Loughner was just a mental patient who hadn't yet found his needed shrink, demonstrates a blindness to influences that, while fortunately infrequently seen at this level, are nonetheless potent, and capable of far greater violence and havoc than that wrought by Mr. Loughner.
Now, in your defense, I realize that all of secularized psychology makes the same mistakes you do, and you echoing them is no surprise. But the "science" is flawed in that it presupposes a purely non-metaphysical universe, and this presupposition precludes it making critical differentiations between what behaviors are indicative of mental illness, alone, and what behaviors indicate the influence of something more. Such a self-blinded "science" is unable to adequately address such situations as this.
The exclusion of the "metaphysical" as "unscientific" is totally unwarranted, because we know so little about the true nature of the actual dimensionality of the universe; our quantum physics is still so immature, that we cannot rule out the distinct possibility that entities we currently regard as "metaphysical" are actually REAL beings inhabiting other-dimensional spaces within this very same universe that we inhabit.
In that case, which existence is really "metaphysical"; theirs or ours? Inasmuch as we would tend to call their existence "metaphysical," might our existence not also seem equally ethereal to them? Or is it possible that their dimensional space has a vantage point into ours that — like a one-way mirror — renders our reality fully exposed to them, while masking their reality from us?
At bottom we cannot rule out the demonic in this Loughner case, because it is premature for us to rule out its existence on bona-fide scientific grounds. Further developments in our exploration of the nature of the physical universe could very well reveal the existence of real, inhabitable dimensions of which we are not presently aware. We very well could discover that the ONLY difference between the physical, and what we now call "metaphysical," is a dimensional translation WITHIN this same universe. We may well find ourselves sharing our universe with an unseen, extra-dimensional host of entities who have, over our human history, been the source material for all of our anecdotes about angels, demons, gods, fairies, ghosts, space aliens — you name it.
We just don't have enough information to be all cavalier and just write this stuff off.
That is why it is very important not to get involve with occult stuff that will open up “doors”.
Somewhat. Haven’t paid a lot of attention.
All that I’ve read pegs him as an early suspect/target of being an agent of the darker forces of the powers that be.
Doesn’t matter to me how much he was immersed in such skull duggery.
As a psychologist, from this distance, given what I’ve read, I don’t consider his primary problem mental health. His primary problem, to me, was/is spiritual/demonization/mind-control etc. junk.
So lets see he is an Atheist, flag burning, Marxist, anti-corporatist, conspiratist 911 truther.... I think we call those people Progressives...
>> “Actually, beyond disgusting, it exhibits a darkness of the heart and soul that borders on the pathological.” <<
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Like Hawaii ‘borders’ on the Pacific Ocean?
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We conservatives have so many out there trying to give us a bad name. Ugh.
Reminds me of when those idiots shoot the abortion doctors and then ALL pro-lifers are seen as crazy hypocritical murderers: The guy has done decades worth of harm to conservative causes ... too convenient for the other side ... this has got to be a set-up.
You said,
‘I had to shut the TV off because [everything] has been so ridiculous.’
Yep, did that too ... twelve years ago ... it’s still off ... matter of fact ... it’s at the dump.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik failed to protect the community.
Even the college saw this man as a threat.
AZ involuntary commitment laws would have bolstered what the Community College saw and acted upon.
Thanks hennie pennie.
Are primal fears based on pagan beliefs or are pagan beliefs based on primal fears? I lean toward the latter.
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