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Private eye questions if death was murder
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | Fri, Jan. 7, 2011 | WILL BUNCH

Posted on 01/07/2011 7:09:54 AM PST by Gondring

APROMINENT Philadelphia crime sleuth is speculating that the region's high-profile murder mystery - the shocking discovery of ex-Pentagon official John "Jack" Wheeler III in a Wilmington landfill - might not be a murder at all.

William Fleisher, an ex-cop who co-founded Philadelphia's murder-solving Vidocq Society, said that the discovery of eyewitnesses and surveillance video of a disoriented Wheeler before he died suggests that the 66-year-old man had suffered a head or brain injury.

And that apparent disorientation, Fleisher speculated, could have caused Wheeler to voluntarily crawl into a trash Dumpster - either seeking shelter, as happens sometimes among the homeless, or perhaps looking for his reportedly lost papers.

[...]

Fleisher's speculation came as police in Newark, Del., who are leading the investigation, conceded that they have no suspects. And another downtown Wilmington worker came forward with a disturbing account of Wheeler's wanderings before his death.

An unnamed Wilmington deli owner told Fox News that Wheeler entered the eatery at 8 a.m. Dec. 30 and had "super bloodshot eyes" as well as dirty cuffs and seemed homeless, but lucid.

[...]

But, Fleisher emphasized, the new evidence about Wheeler's disorientation suggests that he may not have been murdered at all. He noted that violent movement of the Dumpsters [sic] could have caused injuries to Wheeler or his corpse, which might appear consistent with murder.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 201012; cherryisland; delaware; dswa; fleischer; jackwheeler; johnpwheeler; johnpwheeleriii; johnwheeler; mitre; mitrecorporation; nscwm2; nswmc2; philadelphia; vidocq; wheeler; williamfleischer
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To: Fishtalk; Gondring

Drunk, LOL!

A man who spent lots of his life chairing “Mother’s against drunk drivers”!!

You must be total out of your mind, at least!!!


41 posted on 01/07/2011 10:14:56 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: Fishtalk; Gondring

Seems that your posts always get you into “deep” water!!!


42 posted on 01/07/2011 10:21:44 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: 4Runner; StonyBurk

The General also said that Wheeler left huge cyber foot prints from his jobs!!!


43 posted on 01/07/2011 10:25:21 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: Gondring

I wondered about that same theory yesterday. Even mentioned it to someone. He wandered into a dumpster and dies.

More to come on the story, but this circumstance seems more likely than any one of the many other speculations. However — it doesn’t mean no murder. If his mental confusion was due to some mugging, the mugger(s) are implicated in a murder. If his confusions were due to his setting off rat fumigation bombs in his neighbor’s property — HE then brought on his own death. Might be a combination of both of those circumstances. Or none of the above ....

Murders and possible murders of established well-off folks tend to be complicated or weird affairs.


44 posted on 01/07/2011 10:25:52 AM PST by bvw
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To: Fishtalk

I read someplace that he did walk with a limp. Anyone walking with a limp may appear to be drunk when viewed on a video.


45 posted on 01/07/2011 10:30:16 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; 4Runner

The floor boards, hmmm?

The “incendiary” devise and cell phone in the neighbor’s house could be planted after the murder??

Could be done to put him in a bad looking situation to distract investigation???

Very suspicious!!!


46 posted on 01/07/2011 10:37:34 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: tutstar

strange that the initial story about Wheeler being murdered suddenly changes to something innocent.

If it is akin to any-one in Gov. or has been or might be in Federal Gov. be careful of Arkinside.

At first report, Wheeler was said to have found evidence of Obama not being a legal citizen, Drudge maybe ?


47 posted on 01/07/2011 10:59:32 AM PST by buck61 ( making)
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To: Gondring

Thanks for the ping!


48 posted on 01/07/2011 11:06:26 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: bvw; Fishtalk; PennsylvaniaMom

A reported stood beside one of the dumpsters yesterday while giving his report....The only way he would have gotten in would be to climb a ladder. If already dead it would have taken a very large strong person or two people to lift a dead body into it.

They also clarified the explosive devices. They were the type used to get rid of rodents/rats....Could have even been used by the construction crew. If the building was rat infested and I was a neighbor, I’d probably set them off too.


49 posted on 01/07/2011 11:31:21 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fishtalk
We’re speculating here

As long as we are speculating, has anyone ruled out hypothermia?

Dementia is one symptom, confusion, even disrobing in the cold, and seeking some place warm--even a dumpster--would fit, too.

No alcohol, drugs, trauma, or other 'event' required.

50 posted on 01/07/2011 11:40:52 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Gondring

Ever since the cab driver was shown in a video a few days ago, I suspected he knows more than he’s telling. The police even searched his home.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110107/NEWS/110107031/Police-question-cabbie-about-Wheeler-I-don-t-know-who-this-guy-is-


51 posted on 01/07/2011 11:42:34 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: hoosiermama

The real test would have been by bringing a cold, damp, drunken 60 year old male otherwise in good health to the dumpster and telling him there was a bottle of whiskey and a couple dry blankets in there. He would be able to hop in in under 1 minute, I betcha.


52 posted on 01/07/2011 11:47:37 AM PST by bvw
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To: hoosiermama

I know I listen (at times) to too many talk radio shows. But I have found that Michael Savage has been outstanding on this matter. I am making time to be able to listen to his show, I am so drawn to this mystery.

Again, the more that they ‘throw’ out for public consumption (he had dementia...look over here, his cell phone and smoke bombs) and the more the ‘breaking news’ can be easily explained, the thicker the plot gets.

I just can’t get around the clothing changes and the carrying of the shoe. I am also wondering, like many high powered people, did he have two cells phones (one for work contacts, emails; one for private.) How did his phone get into the neighboring house?


53 posted on 01/07/2011 11:55:01 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom ('We are coming out of our trance, we are coming out of our nightmare...' <3Michele Bachmann)
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To: LRS; firebrand; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Gondring; All
...after seeing the confused Wheeler video the other day...

Can someone please post a link to that video, if it is on the 'Net?

54 posted on 01/07/2011 11:59:48 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: danamco
A man who spent lots of his life chairing “Mother’s against drunk drivers”!!

And with all the other people who said they saw him, if the guy was out tying on a two day bender, you would think some bartender or other patron would have come forward and said they ran into him.

55 posted on 01/07/2011 12:05:35 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Hadn’t thought of the two cell phone possibility.
Concerning the brief case. My dad always carried his ID and cards in brief case, but kept cash in a money clip. It would explain why he had money but no cards etc.

I hope they follow up on the “stolen” briefcase. The shoe could have come off if he was running. One of the friends mentioned that the limp mentioned and seen on the video was “normal”.

Did you know that the neighbor is the nephew “like a son” of a well known mobster/contractor?


56 posted on 01/07/2011 12:12:42 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Gondring
And the police never said it was murder. Never. It was ruled a homicide. Why? We don’t know.

Did they 'rule' it a homicide or are they investigating it as homicide? There is a difference.

In any unexplained death, the police will typically investigate it as if it were homicide until or unless they find evidence to the contrary. They do this to assure they collect the evidence in the proper manner that will hold up in court if it does go to trial.

57 posted on 01/07/2011 12:12:54 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Gondring

“He was hit by a sea-launched missile, right on the head. BONK! I saw the contrail.</sarc>”

The Chinese saw it, too! ;)
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/chinese-media-join-the-wheeler-conspiracy-bandwagon/69075/


58 posted on 01/07/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: hoosiermama; PennsylvaniaMom
Did you know that the neighbor is the nephew “like a son” of a well known mobster/contractor?

Do you have a reliable source for that???

59 posted on 01/07/2011 12:30:22 PM PST by danamco (')
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To: danamco

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2652076/posts


60 posted on 01/07/2011 12:39:16 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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