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Suspects Shot in Attempted Grocery Store Robbery (Store Owner plugs 2 youts with .357 mag)
KATV.com ^ | 06 JAN 11 | By Rusty Mizell

Posted on 01/06/2011 7:58:27 AM PST by DCBryan1

Posted: Jan 05, 2011 4:49 PM CST Updated: Jan 05, 2011 4:49 PM CST By Rusty Mizell

LITTLE ROCK – A pair of would-be robbers are in the hospital following an attempted armed robbery at a grocery store on Colonel Glenn Road.

Police were called to Joe's Grocery Store at 12223 Colonel Glenn Road just before 10 a.m. on Wednesday. Two men who were attempting to rob the store were shot in the chest and in the leg by the clerk and owner of the business.

According to a police report, the robbers pulled a gun and were taking money from the register, when the clerk pulled out a .357 handgun and shot both men. The suspects have not been identified.

While fleeing the store, the men dropped the stolen money and their handgun, and sped away in a maroon Oldsmobile, hitting a fence in the process.

A short time later, police responded to the intersection of Colonel Glenn and Interstate 430, where the men had summoned an ambulance to transport them to the hospital.

Little Rock Police Lt. Terry Hastings says the owner of the store does not face charges related to the shootings at this time, and that the prosecuting attorney's office will ultimately decide if any charges will be filed.

Hastings says it is his opinion that the store owner was within his rights to shoot the men, because they had a gun pointed at him.

Hastings added that an investigation is underway to determine if the men have been involved in other recent robberies.

"We've had some other robberies around Christmas, before and after, that were two individuals that match this description. So we'll definitely be looking at that as well as some other factors that I'm not able to reveal at this moment", Hastings said.

No one inside the business was injured in the attempted robbery.

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette/STATON BREIDENTHAL Police and paramedics prepare to transport one of two suspects Wednesday morning after they were reportedly shot by a grocery store owner during a robbery attempt in Little Rock.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
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To: samtheman

*** Now I’m married. Before I wasn’t. So I’m buying this gun for 2 people, not just one. Any thoughts?***

Years ago backin the 1970s, Skeeter Skelton, writer for Shooting Times, extolled the virtues of the .44 Special while also giving good word to the .45 ACP, long Colt and .44 mag.

Then one day in an article about owning only ONE handgun, he said his choice would be...a S&W .357 mag with a 5 inch barrel.

You might see if your family members can operate a double action trigger of a revolver, then see if they can pull the slide of an automatic back.


41 posted on 01/06/2011 9:02:45 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: DCBryan1

***Colonel Glenn Road ***

We used to go swimming at LAKE NIXON on CG Road! Anyone remember the radio advertisements...”ATTENTION, LAKE NIXON!”

It was not “segregated” but you did have to have a membership (50 cents). When people of color showed up they were suddenly out of memberships.


42 posted on 01/06/2011 9:13:13 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: DCBryan1

The store owner Yousef Alley, 59, was shaken up but uninjured. To his loyal customers he’s just “Joe”. Alley has been running his grocery store at that location for the last 35 years.


43 posted on 01/06/2011 9:21:07 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: DCBryan1

And don’t forget, if the robber with the bullet hole in his chest dies, the other one will be charged with homicide in the commission of a felony, and could get the death penalty.


44 posted on 01/06/2011 9:26:50 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Lurker; samtheman

Also, you don’t have worry about the safety on a revolver. Just leave the chamber under the hammer empty and the rest is taken care of.

Carrying an auto loaded and cocked (the only correct way to carry a SA Auto) makes some folks nervous.


45 posted on 01/06/2011 9:49:54 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Little Ray
Cocked?

If I don't have time to pull the trigger...either way I'm too late.

Cocked?

I ain't doing that.

46 posted on 01/06/2011 9:53:59 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: DCBryan1
Hell man....a .357 puts a pretty good hole.

If the shop owner had hit them in a better place...they would both be dead.

47 posted on 01/06/2011 9:57:24 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The problem with an auto isn't so much being able to work the slide, it's limp wristing when firing causing it to jam, then having to clear it.

With a DA revolver, unless they get a hammer less, they can always shoot it SA. Most people, myself included, can't hit squat at anything but the closest distance, shooting DA anyway because of the trigger pull being so heavy. Missing a skinny isn't that hard.

48 posted on 01/06/2011 10:02:02 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Graybeard58
Never been fired?

Dat's what they are made fer!!

49 posted on 01/06/2011 10:02:09 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

Proper way to carry a 1911 type .45 auto is loaded (one up the spout) and cocked. Otherwise you have to operate the slide or cock the hammer before it is ready to use. And 1911s don’t come with a de-cocker, so letting the hammer down on a loaded chamber would be iffy (i.e. might as well carry it cocked...).

DA Autos can be carried loaded and de-cocked. The trigger pull will operate the hammer. They have “de-cockers” to safely drop the hammer on a loaded chamber.

For revolvers, just leave the chamber under hammer empty (and even that is safety overkill with most modern revolvers). But it generally limits you to five (or four in some smaller revolvers) rounds.

Main thing is, don’t touch the trigger until you’re ready to shoot.


50 posted on 01/06/2011 10:11:43 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Good advice....

I have daughters...and they cannot rack a semi-auto every time..easily.

Not an issue with a wheel gun.

51 posted on 01/06/2011 10:16:34 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Lurker; Ruy Dias de Bivar; chadwimc; IMR 4350; Little Ray; Oberon; Graybeard58; ...

Thanks for all the comments, everyone, and the link, Las Vegas Ron... which is a bit of iRonic since the place where I lived when I last owned a gun was, in fact, Las Vegas.

I’m going to go to a gun shop with a firing range in the basement and try out a few of these suggestions. I’m particularly interested in Eric’s suggestion of a Glock. I at least want to look at that, even though I am still partial to the .357 which, as several people mentioned, can handle the .38 loads.

Who knows. Maybe I’ll end up buying TWO guns!

Thanks again, everyone.


52 posted on 01/06/2011 10:21:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Little Ray
Well...I guess I'm ignorant once again. I didn't realize a 1911 won't fire with just a trigger pull, if you have one in the chamber.

All my Semi's will do that....thus my post.

I have a CZ-52...that the de-cocker does work...but I don't trust it. Hellofa gun...very fun to shoot..and cheap to shoot.

FRegards,

53 posted on 01/06/2011 10:26:50 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: DCBryan1
A pair of would-be robbers are in the hospital following an attempted armed robbery

That's terrible. Just terrible.

They should both be in the morgue.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

54 posted on 01/06/2011 10:27:08 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Osage Orange

Have a CZ-52, too. Decent pistol for Eastern Bloc. Its my travel gun when I travel alone.


55 posted on 01/06/2011 10:36:24 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Little Ray
Just leave the chamber under the hammer empty and the rest is taken care of.

In most modern designs this isn't an issue. There's either a transfer bar which doesn't move into position until the trigger is pulled or the hammer is on a cam which doesn't allow it to travel far enough to contact the primer.

Older designs do lack this important safety feature, however.

56 posted on 01/06/2011 10:39:43 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

I know, but even the folks who make these revolvers tell you put the hammer down on an empty chamber; esp. Ruger.

But, “If you need six, load six.”


57 posted on 01/06/2011 10:43:10 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Lurker

Did that ever apply to any DA wheel guns? I can’t think of any, just old hawglegs.


58 posted on 01/06/2011 10:44:20 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Little Ray; Osage Orange
CZ-52 ... your own personal hand-cannon ...

I dearly love mine ...

59 posted on 01/06/2011 10:45:15 AM PST by BlueLancer (Nuke Austin from orbit .... it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: samtheman

Try out both the 357 and the 45 at the range.

Things to look for:

1. Revolvers will fit most any one’s hands. I have had difficulty finding semis to fit my hand but I have never handled a revolver that did not fit me exactly. This is very important particularly if you and your wife are going to be using the same pistol.

2. A .45 has a much slower recoil and you will find it easier to get the barrel down for the second shot. I don’t shoot the 357 for that reason. 45 is my choice.

3. You can shoot wax bullets with a revolver but not with a semi auto. You can but it is way too much trouble. The wax bullets are accurate out to 30 feet.

4. Training with 38 special is fine in the beginning, but you and your wife need to train with the bullet you will be using in a real situation.

Good luck and have fun with you new pistol.


60 posted on 01/06/2011 10:46:33 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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