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Senate 1/5/2011 Live Thread - Filibuster rules debate
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Posted on 01/05/2011 12:09:54 PM PST by PapaBear3625

Senate is now debating changes to filibuster rule.


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KEYWORDS: filibuster; senate
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To: PapaBear3625
They will try to pass the rules change with 51 votes by using procedural slight of hand.

No sleight of hand required. Rules changes on the first day of congress only require a simple majority.

21 posted on 01/05/2011 12:55:42 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: goldstategop
the spineless GOP that was undermined by its own RINOs when it wanted to exercise that option.

Yep. And where's that Gang of 14 now?
22 posted on 01/05/2011 12:56:12 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: rawhide

While I do believe the senators should have to do a real filibust and that they shouldn’t be able to place a silent hold on a nominee. Really they should have to vote up or down on all nominees. I wanted that when Bush was President and I still want it today. Maybe that will wake up some people not to vote for their stupid liberal senator because they can really screw up the nation. Also might mean people won’t feel comfortable with the Senate in liberal hands because a few solid conservatives (41) can keep them in check.


23 posted on 01/05/2011 1:04:45 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Rules changes on the first day of congress

And a "day" is not one 24 hour period but begins when the Senate is called to session and can be extended.
24 posted on 01/05/2011 1:10:52 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: goldstategop

WHAT the Republicans could do is promise to use every trick in the book to shut down the Senate to a crawl. Make every Bill be read front to back, take turns doing talking filibusters, a la Bernie Sanders, on every mundane Bill that is brought up, day after day, hour after hour. I would assign a Republican Senator to take up 5-6 hours of time doing an old fashioned filibuster. The Republicans in the House SHOULD go nuclear on the Democrats in the House as payback.

The Democrats want war. I say give it to them.


25 posted on 01/05/2011 1:11:25 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Eagle of Liberty

“Yep. And where’s that Gang of 14 now?”

Waiting for the cameras so they can bash Republicans.


26 posted on 01/05/2011 1:46:06 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: PapaBear3625

where did,
rules change on the first day,
come from?
...

I though that the Senate was a ‘continuing body’
so rules would continue from the
last session, ..unless changed..


27 posted on 01/05/2011 1:46:33 PM PST by Talf
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To: Talf
I though that the Senate was a ‘continuing body’ so rules would continue from the last session, ..unless changed..

I believe you are right. Further, I think it takes 2/3rds of the entire senate for a rule change.
28 posted on 01/05/2011 2:03:03 PM PST by Kegger
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To: rawhide
Yes, but those provisions in the Constitution were written before Senators were popularly elected.
29 posted on 01/05/2011 2:03:20 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: Talf

Continuing from when? Until when? Who decides?

The Constitution only says that the Senate has the power to set its own rules. The Senate can st them and change them at anytime.


30 posted on 01/05/2011 8:16:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Correct, they have until Jan. 24th. to arm twist enough cowards to get the 51 votes needed to change the rule.


31 posted on 01/05/2011 8:52:22 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

the House goes out of business, every two years,
the Senate does not.

the Senate has in the past,
used ‘last times’ rules.
...which were last changed in 1975.

Biden is going to say ...
hey , new Congress, time to adopt rules..

there is no precedent for that

225 years of Senate tradition,
gone

reason... change rules...2/3rds majority
adopr rules... simple majority


32 posted on 01/05/2011 9:17:31 PM PST by Talf
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To: Talf

A Senate from 1791 or 1891 or 1991 cannot bind the current Senate from the grave EXCEPT by constitutional amendment (which requires far more than just Senate approval)

End of story.

Tradition? Yes
Obligation? No
Prudent? Perhaps


33 posted on 01/06/2011 1:42:12 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Talf

Truthfully, the Senate doesn’t need a reason to change their rules. And the filibuster rule has not been there the entire 225 years.


34 posted on 01/06/2011 5:36:52 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: GoCards

The Maine & Alaska R’s can be counted as D’s.


35 posted on 01/06/2011 8:24:08 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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