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Welcome the Stranger (Why Mass, Unskilled Immigration is Not Social Justice)
Catholicity ^ | May 5, 2010 | John Zmirak

Posted on 01/03/2011 8:15:52 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

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Written months ago, this isn't "news" but it's definitely "activism." Class, discuss.
1 posted on 01/03/2011 8:15:57 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
First impression: writer gets a gold star for "snake-handlers justifying their latest romp in the piney woods with an ice cooler full of copperheads."

No offense to our separated Pentecostal Holiness brethren . . .

2 posted on 01/03/2011 8:19:45 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Seriously, a good logical argument.

Did you ever hear back from the fellow in your diocese who was a dyed-in-the-wool pro-illegal?

3 posted on 01/03/2011 8:23:13 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Stopped reading at Martin Luther.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 8:24:49 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good post, thanks, the do gooders and pass the collection plate crowd will be very displeased.


5 posted on 01/03/2011 8:27:11 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping!!


6 posted on 01/03/2011 8:30:25 AM PST by Juana la Loca
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To: Mrs. Don-o

‘Martin Luther famously used his private reading of St. Paul’s Letter to the Romans to invent a whole new theology of salvation,’

This will be a fun little thread...


7 posted on 01/03/2011 8:34:42 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Social justice” is not justice at all.


8 posted on 01/03/2011 8:35:40 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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“Social justice” is not justice at all.

They always leave off the 'ist' after 'Social'.

9 posted on 01/03/2011 8:40:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: AnAmericanMother
No, unfortunately, our diocesan justice guy (a man I like tremendously, actually: pro-lifer, retired Marine colonel and all) has cut me off his list.

I'm still trying to do my due diligence in the dogged dialogue department. Some adaptation of this thread is going to be part of that effort.

Gimme a bead on your next Rosary, 'K?

10 posted on 01/03/2011 8:46:32 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


11 posted on 01/03/2011 8:48:55 AM PST by HiJinx (Where did 2010 go?)
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‘Martin Luther famously used his private reading of St. Paul’s Letter to the Romans to invent a whole new theology of salvation,’

ROMANS is often called the Bible within the Bible.


12 posted on 01/03/2011 8:55:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; 1000 silverlings; 1035rep; 109ACS; 11Bush; 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; ...
Yes, “the widow, the orphan and the stranger” are the objects of God’s special concern, as we are taught by the Prophets, and by Our Lord. They and their modern-day equivalents --- husbandless mother, the unborn child, and the vulnerable immigrant --- have a strong claim on our solidarity.

The obligation to respond decently to needy people does not, however, wipe out the obligation to do in a way that doesn't destroy other elements of the Common Good. In fact, justice to these groups must take place in the larger context of justice to all, as far as our prudence can work that out. And that's where the problems arise.

The controversy about the status of those who enter this country unlawfully is difficult in part because many of these millions are simultaneously accessories to, as well as victims of, injustice.

Check out the testimony of Dr. Carol Swain, a Vanderbilt University professor of law and political science, who spoke to the House panel on immigration last September. (Good Link Here.) She made a convincing case that it is the steady flow of cheap migrant labor which destroys job opportunities and depresses wages for poor blacks and other American minorities.

It's very well to say, as some do, that Latino new-arrivals may be a better category of workers than our own home-grown welfare class. It's legitimate, though, to ask whether successive waves of low-wage foreign workers have played a role in keeping our own "welfare class" socially demoralized and unemployable.

The degradation of the wages of those who are already the poorest-paid workers in America, and the disappearance of jobs for unskilled youth, is having a catastrophic impact on our "permanent underclass." This is a legitimate argument against the acceptance of massive numbers of newcomers, no matter where they come from. It stems from concern for a vast group of sufferers whose interests are rarely considered: the millions --- particularly young, unskilled, minority males --- who are substantially, and in some cases for a lifetime, robbed of any prospect of gainful employment because they have been displaced by a vast influx of exploited foreign nationals.

That’s why I must ask well-intending Christians to resist reducing this controversy to racism or xenophobia on the part of those who strongly oppose illegal immigration. It's a mistake to assume that present immigration controversy is attributable to unreasonable fears and resentments.

Many Christian groups --- not only Catholic Bishops, but Evangelicals, and Baptists, and Hispanic Protestant Church groups, among others --- check these Links! ---have been big, prominment supporters of "immigration reform"; but let's notice that they're making the same rhetorical error here that many of them made in the "health reform" debate: namely, they're giving a sonorous "Oremus" to the label of "immigration reform", while allowing the content to be substantially defined by President Obama and his legislative allies.

If the so-called "reform" is injurious to the Common Good, no amount of "Oremus" is going to make it "compassionate," "generous" or "just".

My own specific critique will have to wait til later. What I'm doing here, is defending our right as a matter of justice and charity to disagree with our clergy's ill-considered political positions. Charity and justice are always the Church's concern; but public policy is the sphere of lay responsibility in which clergy have neither special competence nor direct ecclesial authority.

13 posted on 01/03/2011 8:55:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Feeling good about government, is like looking on the bright side of a catastrophe." P.J. O'Rourke)
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Placemark.


14 posted on 01/03/2011 9:01:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dfwgator

But of course. :) And Happy New Year.


15 posted on 01/03/2011 9:04:10 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
You'll notice, upon careful reading, that Zmirak is not criticizing Romans, but rather criticizing Luther's interpretation of Romans.

A worthy topic for discussion, but I hope not on this thread, since it's far from Zmirak's principle theme, which is the misuse of Scripture to justify illegal immigration.

In fact, I thought of editing Zmirak's article to eliminate such highly pruritic distractions, but decided that it would be too big an alteration of Dr. Z's characteristic style. I judged that most people would focus in on his main topic. I hope I have not judged rashly.

16 posted on 01/03/2011 9:06:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Feeling good about government, is like looking on the bright side of a catastrophe." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bttt for later


17 posted on 01/03/2011 9:10:33 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Mrs. Don-o
She made a convincing case that it is the steady flow of cheap migrant labor which destroys job opportunities and depresses wages for poor blacks and other American minorities.

There is also the principle of subsidiarity. We are supposed to care for poor Americans before caring for the poor-from-everywhere-else-who-want-to-come-to-America. Giving advantages to those who sneaked in illegally is not only failing to help American citizens, it is actively harming American citizens by aiding those who have no legitimate claim on the U.S. at all (aside from the fact that the federal government is not supposed to be handing out money like this anyway). People feel sorry for poor Guatemalans? Let them send a check from their own bank accounts to poor Guatemalans or to social service or missionary organizations in Guatemala who are working to help poor Guatemalans. This, eliminating union-supported minimum wage laws and union-supported restrictions on "child" labor would go a long, long way to providing Americans with an entry into the job market.
18 posted on 01/03/2011 9:12:42 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

All too often today’s husbandless mother is both husbandless and a mother by her own foolish willful choices so I fail to see any correlation to the Biblical widow who did not seek nor desire widowhood, but found herself one through no fault of her own.


19 posted on 01/03/2011 9:20:21 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTTT


20 posted on 01/03/2011 9:28:30 AM PST by E.G.C.
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