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The Poverty Of Ambition: Why The West Is Losing To China And India
Forbes ^ | 12/31/2010 | Joel Kotkin

Posted on 12/31/2010 5:57:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The last 10 years have been the worst for Western civilization since the 1930s. At the onset of the new millennium North America, Europe and Oceania stood at the cutting edge of the future, with new technologies and a lion’s share of the world’s GDP. At its end, most of these economies limped, while economic power – and all the influence it can buy politically – had shifted to China, India and other developing countries.

This past decade China’s economic growth rate, at 10% per annum, grew to five times that U.S.; the gap was even more disparate between China and the slower-growing E.U., Yet periods of slow economic growth occur throughout history — recall the 1970s — and economies recover. The bigger problem facing Western countries, then, is a metaphysical one — a malady that the British writer Austin Williams has dubbed “poverty of ambition.”

This lack of ambition plagues virtually every Western country. The ability to act has become shackled by profound pessimism that according to recent Gallup survey contrasts with the optimism found not only in rising states like China, India and Brazil, but also deeply impoverished places like Bangladesh.

Attitudes have consequences. The rising stars of the non-Western world — from the United Arab Emirates to Singapore and China — are building cities with startling new architecture and bold infrastructure. Their entrepreneurs are expanding their operations across the planet.

Of course, you can chortle at the outrageous overbuilding in places like Dubai, but the Western world might do better to appreciate the scope of their ambition. Indeed, for years New York’s Empire State building, erected during the Depression, was derided as ”the empty state building.” Today it’s visionary developers like Iraqi-born Istabraq Janabi who are planning unlikely new structures even in troubled places like Ramadi, Iraq.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambition; china; india; west
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1 posted on 12/31/2010 5:57:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone that tries to better themselves thru eduction ends up at the age of 22 with $150,000 bill and a chance to compete with H1-b visa indentured slaves. If you are a white male you get to fight reverse discrimination, too. Yeah, there might be a problem with gloBULLization.


2 posted on 12/31/2010 6:03:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“This lack of ambition plagues virtually every Western country.”

Why bother to be ambitious when the government penalizes those who work? And the “people” know the government is all to anxious to provide food and shelter and medical care to all those who don’t work along with their illegitimate offspring.


3 posted on 12/31/2010 6:05:44 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: SeekAndFind

Try to start a business, create an invention, take an idea and make it profitable.

Then, try to get through the regulation maze, the licensing, officialdom, and then compete with those who have a monopoly.

America makes it impossible to just DO It.


4 posted on 12/31/2010 6:07:31 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know if its so much a lack of ambition. I think its that we’ve shackled ourselves with unsustainable promises (entitlements, health care, pensions) and regulations. He makes a good point about the “Rise of the Restrainers”. I think that perfectly summarizes the people in power today. They want to restrain society and look inward not outward.


5 posted on 12/31/2010 6:11:00 AM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: SeekAndFind

China and India, also, don’t have very expensive environmental restrictions placed upon them, compared to most of the developed countries of the world.


6 posted on 12/31/2010 6:12:55 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: rbg81

There are still plenty of opportunities for the politically ambitious. And that is a big part of the problem.


7 posted on 12/31/2010 6:14:19 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: freeangel

>>Why bother to be ambitious when the government penalizes those who work?

The government rewards the lazy and punishes success. The corporations use and discard good employees while promoting the products of their “diversity programs”. Entrepreneurs get villified and taxed to death. Environmental protection restrictions are a minefield. Out of control labor laws, OSHA, Personal injury lawyers. School systems that teach kids that hard work hurts self-esteem. The list goes on and on that explains why we have been conditioned to fear our own ambition. Developing countries have none of the things I mentioned. The sky is the limit for the ambitious in those countries.

Bring the free market back to the US and you’ll see ambition again.


8 posted on 12/31/2010 6:17:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (We no longer need to win an election. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Incentives matter. Anyone who has been self-employed understands the difference between preparing your taxes a self-employed person, versus as a w-2 employee. The system is set up to encourage people simply to do as they are told and not to have any ambition. Why bother for a one-in-million shot when the government or inflation eats away at your investment capital?


9 posted on 12/31/2010 6:19:46 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Bryanw92

...”The government rewards the lazy and punishes success. The corporations use and discard good employees while promoting the products of their “diversity programs”. Entrepreneurs get villified and taxed to death. Environmental protection restrictions are a minefield. Out of control labor laws, OSHA, Personal injury lawyers. School systems that teach kids that hard work hurts self-esteem. The list goes on and on that explains why we have been conditioned to fear our own ambition. Developing countries have none of the things I mentioned. The sky is the limit for the ambitious in those countries.

Bring the free market back to the US and you’ll see ambition again”...

BRILLIANT! You put the absolute truth in a nutshell..Thanks!


10 posted on 12/31/2010 6:20:56 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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RE: China and India, also, don’t have very expensive environmental restrictions placed upon them


They actually REFUSE to have these restrictions placed upon them. They refuse to sign on to Kyoto, Copenhagen or Cancun.

The rest of the Western world, signs on, and them promptly and hypocritically ignores their restrictions.


11 posted on 12/31/2010 6:21:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Govt hypertrophy. We’re in a thorny hell of regulations and laws. And no amount of whining is ever going to get us out.


12 posted on 12/31/2010 6:21:53 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Happy new year!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess what happens when congress over spends and over taxes.


13 posted on 12/31/2010 6:27:10 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind
"The last 10 years have been the worst for Western civilization since the 1930s."

Stark reality.

14 posted on 12/31/2010 6:29:19 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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Ambition in America is being stifled by Regulation - when you make it more trouble than it's worth to succeed, ambition turns to frustration, and dies on the wayside.

The bucketful of crabs know as the left are not going to let any crawl out of the bucket and become successful. The left is an envious, small-minded bunch who want to punish success rather than rejoice in it.

Power and control over our daily lives is what the left seeks - aka a dictatorship. They're throwing everything from obamacare to global warming in our way to slow us down and confiscate our hard-earned worldly goods...yet we sit around with only "hope" that it will "change"...that sounds amazinly like "obamaspeak" to me...so why are we subscribing to that?

And, WTF is the TEA party? Are they out there still backslapping over the "job well done" in November? All this DADT and START going on, and I haven't heard a peep out of them. Hey, you job isn't over, it's only begun. We should have been a thousand deep in DC when the lame ducks were arm-twisting Boehner on these "compromises".

Meanwhile the dems are laughing their asses off and obama is on a victory lap about all they accomplished - all negative legislation and none of it too popular with the American People - you know, the ones the TEA party movement is supposed to represent.

The "movement" in TEA Party Movement implies that it cannot stand still...it must keep moving. I certainly hope they don't sit idly by and watch the dems treat the GOP majority like abused wives who keep coming back for more.

It's the new year, we should let any Congressional member have a moment's peace until the job they were sent there to do - the job the PROMISED to do - is done...democrats AND republicans.

The only thing I hate worse than democrats, are candy-assed republicans, aka RINO's. They are traitors of the worst sort - wolves in sheeps clothing and they are living a lie just by showing up to vote...with the dems.

Rout them all, I say...they needs to shudder in fear at the mere thought of a liberal vote or even a compromise...we'd rather have gridlock and shut down the government than to cowtow to the obamamaniacs.
15 posted on 12/31/2010 6:30:55 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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RE: All this DADT and START going on, and I haven’t heard a peep out of them.


If we’ve learned anything from the Tea Party it is this -— they are mostly concerned with the country’s FINANCES, DEBT, MONETARY and ECONOMIC POLICIES.

Heck, I’ve even met libertarian Tea Partiers who don’t give a hoot about Gay Marriage, abortion or anything like that.

We need another Tea Party, but for social issues. Good luck finding enough people for that.

People only react when it hurts their bottom line.


16 posted on 12/31/2010 6:34:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yuri Bezmenov called this the “demoralization” phase, and it seems to have been a spectacular success for the enemies of America.


17 posted on 12/31/2010 6:40:38 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

The author may have a point but it’s not the one he’s trying to make. The principle of comparative advantage dictates that work be done where it can be done most cost-effectively. One example is, we use out great open plains for growing corn and wheat rather than trying to make say, New Jersey able to grow enough food to feed it’s population. But this means New Jersey can use its treasure and talent to engage in economic activity that will allow them to trade for the food they need, but don’t make themselves. Each region does what it does best, and both prosper. It’s the same upward-reaching cycle that has built prosperity in this nation for over 200 years.

The real problem is our ability as a nation to get on with that next step, and this is indeed where government needs to get out of the way. Science and technology will lead the way but not under the burden of over-regulation, oppressive taxation, and a clueless bureaucracy.


18 posted on 12/31/2010 6:42:19 AM PST by bigbob (.)
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The Poverty Of Ambition: Why The West Is Losing To China And India

A more apt question might be: Why is the US giving away its jobs, technology and markets to China and India?

And, have the these two great nations some think we should be emulating yet created growing economies that benefit even 20% of their large populations?

19 posted on 12/31/2010 6:53:44 AM PST by Will88
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The problem with comparative advantage nonsense is that nations with a comparative advantage in cheap labor have populations in excess of three billion, , probably closer to four billion, with hundreds of millions of unemployed and underemployed.

It is total nonsense that the US and other industrialized nations can export its manufacturing to cheap labor nations and still create more jobs to employ its displaced workers. And now that cheap workers with more education and skills are in the outsourcing market, the drain of jobs that won’t be replaced moves into more professional jobs.

We’ve been told for thirty or more years that Americans will be retrained for the “high tech, high paying jobs of the future”. Well, the future is here and we see how well that has worked out.

The undeveloped word’s comparative advantage in cheap labor, skilled and unskilled, is immense, and it is fanciful nonsense to pretend that the industrialized nations can export every job possible to cheap labor and still create jobs for their citizens.

We are now realizing how simplistic and nonsensical these theories and policies have been.


20 posted on 12/31/2010 7:05:22 AM PST by Will88
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