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For Kodachrome Fans, Road Ends at Photo Lab in Kansas
New York Times ^ | December 30, 2010 | A. G. SULZBERGER

Posted on 12/30/2010 4:04:06 AM PST by Second Amendment First

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To: Second Amendment First

I still have some aluminum and maybe some yellow. If i remember from my child hood that Kodachrome had a black lid, PlusX, a brown lid and SuperX a green lid on the yellow cans.


41 posted on 12/30/2010 6:15:39 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: Second Amendment First

A tearful bump for reference.


42 posted on 12/30/2010 6:23:00 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: bill1952

Archival inkjet printing uses pigment based ink, I know this is a fact for black and I think they have color pigments now.

A pigment based ink should last longer than traditional color photography.


43 posted on 12/30/2010 6:35:36 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Second Amendment First

I love old school photography.
I love Kodachrome. But taking money out of
your retirement funds to pay for processing is
just whacked!


44 posted on 12/30/2010 6:52:34 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Las Vegas Dave

The song Kodachrome was a Paul Simon solo effort.
Garfunkel is not on the record. I once heard a radio
station in Youngstown, Ohio play it four times in an
hour during a live remote broadcast (guess they left
most of their records back in the studio)


45 posted on 12/30/2010 6:54:45 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: PowderMonkey

I know a place that can probably recalibrate your Minolta’s meter to the new batteries. (I have two SRT’s that were so modified) Freepmail me if interested.


46 posted on 12/30/2010 7:01:50 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: Second Amendment First
In related news from a little while back:

Farewell Kodachrome: Steve McCurry Takes The Final 36 Exposures

At least they entrusted the last roll of Kodachrome produced to one of the best photographers in the world. A fitting end for Kodachrome.

47 posted on 12/30/2010 7:04:57 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: mc5cents

The really sad thing is that Paul Simon declined to be photographed on the last roll of Kodachrome. It would have been one of the most fitting possible photographs, and he blew it.


48 posted on 12/30/2010 7:07:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Second Amendment First
Archiving your digital photos is crucial. Unfortunately CDs may not be the best answer. The standard computer CD can start to lose data in a matter of weeks especially if they are the less expensive kind. There are archive quality CDs that are supposed to last 40+ years, but who knows as the CD hasn't been around long enough to know for sure. CD drives are also becoming rarer in new computers and may like the floppy drives become extinct so the CD media may not be a good choice for the long term.

Better quality USB flash drives might be an answer. I ran one of mine through the washer and dryer and still could access the photos I had stored on it. I also have an external hard drive, but that has the same potential for failure as do any hard drive inside your computer. I am now copying my photos from my external hard drive to flash drives which I will store in my safety deposit box at the bank. Another possible solution is "cloud based" storage backing up your photos to a remote server via the Internet. There are various services available for about $60 per year.

Another problem is the "jpg" digital photo format itself. The "jpg" format is a "lossy" compression that reduces the massive file size generated by your digital camera to a more manageable size. However this compression is done by selectively tossing out data. "jpg" files re-compress every time they are closed and eventually start to loose enough data that the photos degrade in quality. Newer formats like "jpg 2000" are non lossy, but would require you to convert every one of your photos to this format. To avoid the re-compression problem make your archive copy immediately when downloading the photos from your camera and keep these archive files in a safe place and unopened.

Eventually the "jpg" photo format will be changed to something else so it will in the future likely be necessary to migrate your digital files to some new format just like we have to move our 8mm movies to digital format. However given the popularity of "jpg" photos I expect that format to be around quite a while.

49 posted on 12/30/2010 7:12:25 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: PowderMonkey
Do that with a digital image placed on a storage device. Come back in 30 years. It won't be there.

Bring back punched paper tape for archival!   ;-)


50 posted on 12/30/2010 7:18:29 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Second Amendment First

Photo processors made a boatload of money off of me over the years. I love the flexibility of digital, but my Nikon is nowhere near as simple as my old Minolta XG-1.


51 posted on 12/30/2010 7:22:33 AM PST by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: barb-tex

Question: Do any of the digital cameras offer the instant shutter of my old Minolta SLR? This delay is one of the most annoying things ever.


52 posted on 12/30/2010 7:24:05 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: The Great RJ
Better quality USB flash drives might be an answer.

Would SD cards also be acceptable? I am in the process of scanning old family photos and was thinking of using SD cards for storage.

53 posted on 12/30/2010 7:36:49 AM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: PowderMonkey

Like many, many people, I have a box of family photos passed down several generations to me.

Each generation seems to have added to the collection and passed it on. They will go to my son in a few years, then to his son.

Some of the photos are over one hundred years old. The quality of some of them is quite amazing, considering their age.

Through the generations they were looked at, returned to the box and left on a closet shelf or in a drawer for years - no maintenance required.

This quaint tradition will probably end with the phasing out of film and the move to digital. A small photo is a stand-alone document - easily viewed, easily stored, easily transported. No external power or equipment is required.

A CD or other digital record requires specific, complex equipment to read the record, to view it and to create a hard copy. None of it easily stored in a cigar box to be passed down decade after decade.

Further - Not only do digitally stored records deteriorate over time, but as technology advances the ablity to easily read records stored on old technology is lost.

Digital has the advantage of being convenient at the beginning of the process. After the image is captured it losses that advantage.


54 posted on 12/30/2010 8:11:20 AM PST by Iron Munro (Claire Wolfe: Leave the government even if you canÂ’t leave the country.)
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To: Second Amendment First

A couple months ago I sent them a roll of K64 from an old Argus I found on eBay, having no idea what might be on it.

Sadly, they sent it back saying it was too damaged, presumably through age, to process. I suspect that some of the sprocket holes were torn out.

Maybe I should send it to a cryogenic storage facility (alog with my head).


55 posted on 12/30/2010 8:28:39 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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I shoot film and digital these days. A good compromise for people who still like to use the old cameras is to get a scanner that scans film and get your film developed at Wal Mart, tell them “develop only”, scan in your negatives yurself. You can send the images you want printed off to wallies for printing, you have a film original and they only charge $2 or so for doing the film.
For those with a lot of glass that doesn’t get as much use these days in a digital world, look into getting a micro 4/3 camera from Olympus or Panasonic. Available on eaby for cheap are adapters that will allow the use of almost every lens on the micro 4/3 gear. I got myself an Olympus Pen EP1 for Christmas and it works amazingly well with my old Zuiko, Zeiss or other screwmounts, and Minolta MD lenses.


56 posted on 12/30/2010 8:50:47 AM PST by Gnomad
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To: antiRepublicrat

I haavent seen any, but I haven’t looked. Maybe some Pro models. If not action shots must be off a video. The delay while the digital hithes himself before the shutter trips, lead be to think a balk and would make it unsuitable for action shots. Also do tthey make a digital back for some mid-size real camera?


57 posted on 12/30/2010 9:00:39 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: AFreeBird

Canon went all out to make the shutter, mirror, and film drive on the Elan II and 7E quiet. For example, they eliminated much of the noise in the film transport by replacing most of the gears with an elastomeric toothed belt.

Digital SLRs have the same issues with the shutter and mirror (although not, of course, the film drive) as film SLRs. And the vertical travelling shutter that all makers use now is very similar to the ones used on the last generations of film cameras like the Elans.

Current Canon DSLRs have shutter/mirror mechanisms with various noise levels. It’s a function of how fast they decide to make the blades move (which determines the maximum flash sync speed), how long-lived they intend the shutter to be, and how quickly they decide the particular camera model should respond to the shutter press and return to reflex viewing.

Some Canon digital EOSes are quieter than others, and it’s hard to predict it on the basis price or intended level of user. If they haven’t pulled the shutter/mirror quieting tricks they did on the later Elan models, I’m not sure why.

It is true that they have incorporated certain features that can be used, or are intended, for special situations requiring quiet operation, such as live view and delayed mirror drop.

[[Canon FX,FTBn -> Olympus 2n’s -> Canon EOS Rebel XT, EOS 3 -> Canon EOS Rebel XT -> Canon EOS 50D]]


58 posted on 12/30/2010 9:06:36 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Second Amendment First

There’s tons of stuff on virtually unplayable media. Video from the 50’s, 8-tracks, 5 1/4” floppies, punch cards, etc.

Danger of digital is it could all go bye-bye with a flip of the switch, or the censor’s keystroke.


59 posted on 12/30/2010 9:12:39 AM PST by P.O.E. (A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?)
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To: FrPR
Why did it take three tries to find an SLR that “worked”?

A number of things go wrong on a camera if it has been sitting unused for a number of years, especially if it was in an unfavorable environment.

Shutter and winder mechanisms go bad due to lubricants evaporating or gumming up, rust forming on shutter or diaphragm blades; plastics warp or become brittle and break; foam rubber (e.g. mirror dampers and light baffles) turn into sticky goo. Meter cells corrode, and mercury types are NLA (some adapters to modern types are available though); lenses and viewfinders cloud up from mildew.

60 posted on 12/30/2010 9:15:23 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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