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DA: Funeral processions should be banned
The Monitor ^ | 12/23/2010 | Naxiley Lopez

Posted on 12/29/2010 8:50:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

McALLEN — Hidalgo County should ban funeral processions, county District Attorney Rene Guerra said Thursday.

A fatal crash during a funeral procession Wednesday has led to questions about the safety of the motorcades, where law enforcement officers guide traffic by blocking intersections. A Hidalgo County Precinct 2 constable’s deputy hit and killed an Alamo woman Wednesday when the deputy’s cruiser “t-boned” the vehicle she was traveling in.

Guerra said he’s been concerned about funeral processions for years now, but Wednesday’s crash has revived the debate and sharpened his concerns.

“I was afraid that what happened yesterday would happen,” he said.

Escorting funeral processions has become increasingly dangerous because there are many careless drivers who disregard the escorts, Guerra said. Processions also require a lot of man power and it’s unclear where the acquired funds should go, he added.

“One of the questions raised earlier was if the constables could keep the money or if they should turn it over to the county, especially when county officials are involved,” he said about the fees funeral homes pay the constables. There is also a debate about whether the money should be considered a donation or a payment, he added.

“It’s a situation that creates a problem for everybody involved in a funeral procession,” Guerra said. “I think that if funeral homes would calculate how much time it takes individuals to get out to the cemeteries after the services, people would be easily buried and everybody would have a chance to attend the funeral (without a procession).”

But the processions he would like to see banned are deeply embedded in the Rio Grande Valley’s culture, said Marc Gonzalez, funeral director for Rivera Funeral Home in McAllen.

“A lot of people are used to following the hearse and having a procession instead of just saying ‘We’ll meet at the church,’” he said. “If they ban escorts, I know it will get some people upset.”

Funeral homes usually contract peace officers, such as police officers and constable’s deputies, for the processions, Gonzalez said, because they are the only ones authorized by law to stop and direct traffic. But funeral homes also have another alternative: private escort companies. Rivera Funeral home usually contracts the service from a local company, except when the family of the deceased requests the constables or other law enforcement agencies, Gonzalez said.

Some funeral homes in bigger cities, like Dallas, have actually stopped offering the services because traffic can become quite heavy, he added.

“Even with escorts … some people out there are just in a rush,” he said. “They won’t slow down or they’ll try to beat the procession.”

Another important issue to consider is how the lines will be drawn if the processions are banned, Gonzalez said.

“What happens when you have a high ranking official who passes away, and here come (city police) and county officials providing an escort, but yet for regular people they can’t have one,” Gonzalez said. “That could be another problem.”

“If you’re going to do it, you’re going to have to do it across the board for everybody.”

Guerra said he understands that many see processions as a way to honor the dead but the issue deserves to be reviewed.

“I’m sure there’s a few who are used to the processions, but I think it’s something we have to look at,” he said. “I think the loss of one life is too many.”

Pharr police have not released the victim’s identity and are still investigating the accident, said Sgt. Santiago Solis. The deputy, who was being treated for non-life threatening injuries, is out of the hospital and the condition of the other driver is unknown, he said.

Investigators are waiting for blood-test results, which are always administered when a fatality is involved, he added.

“It’s all going to depend on the complete investigation and the blood results,” he said. “And if everything comes back clean, most likely there won’t be (any charges filed).”

Police, however, will submit the report to Guerra’s office, and it will make the final decision, Solis said.


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To: Mr. Bird
I think it is perfectly fine for local officials to make such decisions based on local conditions.

I think we should all be able to agree with the above statement. Purely a local issue, purely a local decision.

61 posted on 12/29/2010 10:22:49 AM PST by DManA
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To: paladin1_dcs
That that is all you need to know to COMPLETELY judge someone's character tells me a little about your character.

This tells me all I need to know about you.

62 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:09 AM PST by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is a stupid idea.If anything maybe educating the public and increasing fines on those who don’t follow the law? Make it expensive to interupt a funeral procession.Last year we were in one in Columbus at rush hour the officers handled it wonderfully blocking each road with flashing lights far ahead of the procession.They had 4 motorcycle officers doing this and they were geat.


63 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:19 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: DManA

I was actually using “you” as a non-possessive noun. I didn’t mean you, personally, don’t believe in an afterlife since I don’t know you personally.


64 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:31 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs
I hope you have to deal with a funeral in your own life soon,

I on the other hand wish you and yours well.

65 posted on 12/29/2010 10:26:35 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Good, then we’re in agreement.

Your statements have been selfish, self-centered and arrogant. I hope you remember that when it’s your loved one who’s in the hearse.


66 posted on 12/29/2010 10:26:55 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: chris_bdba

I don’t disagree with anything you said. Well said.

Except.... “Last year we were in one in Columbus at rush hour...”

Rush hour? Really? Sorry, but that’s poor planning. In fact that was rude and inconvenient to host a procession during rush hour.


67 posted on 12/29/2010 10:28:52 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: DManA

Take your arrogant, self-righteous, smarmy “well-wishes” and shove ‘em. I have no need, nor want, of them from the likes of you.


68 posted on 12/29/2010 10:30:09 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: paladin1_dcs

I have lost both my father and mother. We had large church funerals and a simple burial with close family attending.


69 posted on 12/29/2010 10:34:10 AM PST by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like the real problem is unlicensed illegal alien drivers who don’t know any traffic laws who are possibly also DWI.


70 posted on 12/29/2010 10:36:23 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: NoGrayZone
I’ve never actually seen one of these (except after 9/11).

Having lived within a mile of a cemetary for most of my life, I see them quite frequently.

71 posted on 12/29/2010 10:36:33 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wait, why is it rude and inconvenient to host a procession during rush hour?

Which is more important, your schedule or respect for the dead and their family? Maybe the one’s being disrespectful and rude are those expecting the family of the deceased to go out of their way to not inconvenience the rest of society.

There’s just something wrong about doing that. Is your schedule so full and so important that you can’t even pay your respects to a funeral procession as it passes?


72 posted on 12/29/2010 10:36:50 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Responsibility2nd

From another article.

http://www.themonitor.com/articles/pharr-45634-constable-procession.html

If the siren & lights on the escorting squad were indeed on as the other article says, . . .

BTW, I’d ride escort in your funeral.


73 posted on 12/29/2010 10:38:36 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: DManA

So if you know the feeling of loss like others do, why do you begrudge that respect to others? Something isn’t tracking about your attitude.


74 posted on 12/29/2010 10:39:06 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Responsibility2nd
These stupid a$$ funeral processions cause massive traffic jams, collisions, and hurt and kill people....They are just a bad idea...

If these people want a funeral processions, have them parade around the cemetery several times.

Enough of that BS!

75 posted on 12/29/2010 10:41:03 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: paladin1_dcs

What attitude? I just think it’s necessary to organize huge parades to the cemetary. That’s all.

Someone else had the right idea. Give everyone a map to the cemetary and let everyone drive there according to the traffic laws.


76 posted on 12/29/2010 10:43:06 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Unnecessary that is.


77 posted on 12/29/2010 10:43:51 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

I agree...These stupid funeral processions are not only dangerous for all, but cause absolute traffic nightmares...


78 posted on 12/29/2010 10:48:42 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I thought the idea behind most funeral processions was to keep together the mourners’ vehicles traveling from the funeral to the gravesite, eliminating undue traffic light delays, out-of-towners getting lost in unfamiliar territory, and as a final respect for the deceased (but pro’ly the ONLY one in the procession who didn’t care that the light was red).


79 posted on 12/29/2010 10:50:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: DManA

Hugh parades? How long does it take for an average procession to pass? 20-30 seconds? I couldn’t tell you how many processions I’ve seen and been in myself and I’ve yet to find one that took longer than a minute to pass, even when I lived and worked in Northern VA.

As for the idea of getting a map and allowing everyone to drive to the cemetary according to the traffic laws, I just have to note that most areas, including most urban areas, have laws allowing for funeral processions with police escort, so your complaint that funeral processions don’t follow the traffic laws is moot.


80 posted on 12/29/2010 10:51:03 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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