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End the Ethanol Insanity
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/dec2010/bw20101221_927461.htm ^

Posted on 12/26/2010 6:52:39 PM PST by shineon

Ethanol damages engines and is not a viable alternative to fossil fuels, but farmers and lobbyists don't want you to know that

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: burningfood; energypolicy; ethanol; greenreligion; mtba; ntsa; sourcetitlenoturl
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Food is not fuel.
1 posted on 12/26/2010 6:52:40 PM PST by shineon
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To: shineon
I hate it, it's a scam, but the good side is I can drive my old car uber fast on the highway without it overheating like it did with real gas.

It has that much less heat value , I reckon?

2 posted on 12/26/2010 6:57:36 PM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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To: shineon

as long as farmers get gubmit handouts they could care less what their product is used for. I have no doubt other factors are in play but I’m tired to paying more and more for my food.


3 posted on 12/26/2010 6:59:41 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: de.rm

Your old car was a lot younger before ethanol, wasn’t it?


4 posted on 12/26/2010 7:01:06 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: shineon

Food for fuel causes corn riots.


5 posted on 12/26/2010 7:05:19 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: shineon

End ALL subsidies for ALL energy. Let it rise of fall based on the merits. While Moochelle is globe-trotting on the “company” 747, eating wagyu beef, allowing us to have one slice of pie for Thanksgiving....and then telling us fat kids are the #1 national security issue, the REAL security issue is energy independence. Maybe she should advocate for MORE drilling, and MORE drilling, and maybe MORE drilling to reduce our dependency on foreign oil.


6 posted on 12/26/2010 7:05:25 PM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: SERKIT

Just wait until a few homes with attached garages burn down and people are killed by this crap eating through older rubber fuel lines.


7 posted on 12/26/2010 7:07:57 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: shineon

Feed the US’ enemies with cheap food,
or,
fuel your car

pick one


8 posted on 12/26/2010 7:16:27 PM PST by Talf
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To: The Antiyuppie
"...garages burn down..."

You know the gov't pukes would react by requiring that all garages (new & existing) be fireproofed (with annual inspections) at a cost of untold bazillions (with suitable payouts to their cronies). So, please keep this quiet.

9 posted on 12/26/2010 7:17:25 PM PST by Thom Pain (November 2, 2010, Step ONE. Repeal 17th, Step TWO. 11/6/2012, Step THREE)
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To: shineon

NASCAR is using E15 this coming year!
Give me a break - pathetic


10 posted on 12/26/2010 7:19:56 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: shineon
Tell Obamma’s best new friend, Senator Grassley!!! RINO Republican!! Who ever takes him on in the primary will get a donation from me!!!
11 posted on 12/26/2010 7:40:57 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: shineon
Ain't no politician who wants to be president gonna say no to ethanol as long as the Iowa Caucus has them by the pubes!
12 posted on 12/26/2010 7:41:29 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: utherdoul
I know you're young but please learn the difference between "could care less" and "couldn't care less".


13 posted on 12/26/2010 7:43:46 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd open it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: SERKIT
the REAL security issue is energy independence.

The REAL #1 security issue is the incompetent buffoon we have sitting in the White House and the rank, globe-trotting amateurs in the State Department that spend more time on a plane boozing it up than anything else.

Don't even get me started on the TSA ....

14 posted on 12/26/2010 7:47:07 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: de.rm
I hate it, it's a scam, but the good side is I can drive my old car uber fast on the highway without it overheating like it did with real gas.

You realize you're getting anywhere from 2 - 3.5mpg less burning gasoline that has 10% ethanol vs. just pure gas don't you?

That reduction in mileage also has a direct correlation to reduced horsepower and performance.

15 posted on 12/26/2010 7:51:13 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: libertarian27
NASCAR is using E15 this coming year!

Not much of a NASCAR fan here, so I have to ask the question: Didn't those engines require some form of modification to be able to run E15 effectively (ie: not destroy seals, etc..) or weren't they already setup to be able to run E15?

Older cars are going to have major problems with increased ethanol requirements, specially fuel pumps, seals and other components that are not designed for such high uses of alcohol in fuel. At least that's what I'm hearing from my mechanic and in our antique car club....

16 posted on 12/26/2010 7:55:33 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: All

I run my car on Soylent Green.


17 posted on 12/26/2010 7:57:30 PM PST by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: BipolarBob

Anyone I know?


18 posted on 12/26/2010 7:59:11 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: shineon
Ethanol cannot reduce the need for oil. It is a matter of physics that any quantity of ethanol delivers 40% less energy than the same quantity of gasoline. Thus any blend of gasoline and ethanol has less energy than an equal quantity of gasoline alone. The result is fewer miles per gallon roughly equal to the percent of ethanol. A 10% ethanol blend gives about 10% less miles per gallon than straight gasoline. Hence where is the saving in oil?

Sadly many Republican members of Congress are whores of the ethanol industry. It is also interesting to note that no farm equipment runs on ethanol or ethanol blends. You would think farmers would be clamoring for ethanol powered equipment. Many farmers also shun bio diesel as the vegetable oils tend to gel at temperatures typical during spring planting and fall harvest.

19 posted on 12/26/2010 8:12:39 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: shineon

This needs to become a major teaparty/conservative issue. Just no possible way we should be using corn to make ethanol while people go hungry in the world.


20 posted on 12/26/2010 8:15:06 PM PST by wendy1946
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