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REVOLUTION! ... or what? (Vanity)
Lazamataz ^ | 12/24/2010 | By Lazamataz

Posted on 12/24/2010 8:49:29 AM PST by Lazamataz

Let's face it: We are losing against the forces of Socialism and Communism.

Over the course of the last 100 years, we have gone from a purely capitalist society, to one slowly working through the throes of communization. The New Deal; the seizure of privately held gold; The War on Poverty / Drugs / Whatever; Social Security; Medicaid and Medicare; the abuse of Eminent Domain; the creation of the EPA, EEOC, FCC, NEA, CPB, and a myriad number of other barely-accountable agencies -- these have been the slow ratcheting-up of the forces of Socialistic control.

It has taken generations, and we now stand on the precipice of the full realization of the Socialists desires: Forceful control of the citizenry -- from cradle to grave -- and the destruction of wealth and the middle class, with an emphasis to collectivizing that wealth in the hands of government.

So, it is obvious that it is WELL PAST Claire Wolfe's popular admonition: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." It is, indeed, past time to shoot.

However, this is not America circa 1776. The things that may have worked then cannot work now. This is not even America circa 1968, whereinwhich only marginally violent 'social force' was useful.

Force is an odd bird, today. Let us consider the range of options available to the resistor:

  1. Somewhat-organized brigades of irregulars: Frankly, the best you could hold to field would be barely-trained irregulars with very poor C3 (Command, Control and Communications). If you could even assemble them, the irregulars would be put down quickly by professional military and police combinations. Armed with over-the-horizon technology, devastating missile technology, and unmanned drones, you'd never see it coming, and as a heat source, you'd stand out in the wilderness like a lightbulb.

    Okay, that won't work too well. The armed rebellion seen in 1776 won't work today. Well then, how about if you convinced a great number of military elements to desert and join our cause?

  2. Professional Military Crossover: You'd get some takers, no question. We still have patriotic people in the military. But, they would be stripped of command and control machinery and the best weaponry. They would be a good adjunct and advisor group to irregulars, but they would not have the true power of the geniune military. They, too, would be crushed.

    Well, then, there is always the emulation of successful cell-groups as practiced in Islamic circles, or as practiced in the resistances of occupied countries since the 1900's. Let's look at that:

  3. Leaderless Cell-based Resistance: These are routinely branded as terrorists, and are treated as non-citizen combatants, replete with the stripping of civil liberties, etcetera. Monitoriing and surviellance (especially network link-analysis) makes them relatively ineffective in this very-modern, very-computerized society, since any code you define would be immediately cracked, and patterns of contact are very observable. Further, what mischief would you make, without garnering negative publicity?

    Clearly a non-starter. Let's look, then, at the left's strategy of mass demonstrations in the 1960's.

  4. Mass Demonstrations: There are now very effective non-lethal counters to this form of resistance. From the microwave-emitter to much-more-potent pepper-sprays to the sound-caster, there are ways to effectively break up a demonstration without actually killing or maiming people, and thusly the government garners no 'Kent State'-style negative publicity, with the concurrent changing of the public's mood.

Ok. Looks like direct confrontation would be a poor option. The form of tyranny we most likely face, is what I call the Soft Tyranny. It isn't like Stalin starving his Ukranian foes. It isn't like Hitler rounding up his hated Jews for orderly disposal. It isn't like Pol Pot lining up the town leaders for summary execution on the spot. It, instead, consists of a low-level bureaucrat coming over and fining you $25.00 because you are using the wrong kind of light bulb. Most students of history see that this (genocide and mass killings) are not the most effective form of control. The most effective form of control is the small regulation and the tiny civil fine. Those tend to make people behave 'correctly'.

One important caveat: If the governmental parties are NOT students of that history, then every thug they sent to round up and kill one of us, obviously, should be liquidated.

Again: giventoday's society, you are much more likely to see a soft tyranny, what are the most effective tools?

The answer is clear: Emulate the success of the left.

Widespread infiltration and the changing of the public's mind: To do this, you must educate. Free Republic is one such form of education, but it's reach is limited. The goal is to train millions of youth. Homeschoolers have a chance to do this, also, perhaps groups such as the Boy Scouts and other social groups. Here, you can educate the minds meaningfully.

Maybe even reach the immigrant population, meaningfully. Deradicalize the La Reconquistas if possible, and show them the merits of freedom and the ways to defeat - by law - government control.

Install more journalists. Train them and send them out.

Get into more churches.

Turn to social media.

Launch more conservative blogs and websites.

The best weapon against communism and socialism is truth, imparted slowly and over a generation. They have two generations on us, so we won't be alive to see the fruits of our labor.

But labor, we must.


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To: Lazamataz

Well said and reasoned out. How many responses before somesage posts,”We can’t do that, it makes[lowers or which term they prefer]us like them”?


41 posted on 12/24/2010 10:14:43 AM PST by sport
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“We need to keep moving forward on states rights and state sovereignty. That is the answer to our problem.”

Well said!


42 posted on 12/24/2010 10:17:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Lazamataz

Well said Bump - thanks, Laz.

I came to the realisation that I no longer live in the country my family emigrated to when I saw the horrific result of President “Read my Lips” Bush and Impeached President “No Sex” Clinton machinations at Ruby Ridge and Mount Carmel. Now we’ve got no id Present Soetoro/Obama, and the new Nazi’s are in full bloom!


43 posted on 12/24/2010 10:20:14 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! Â)
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To: Lazamataz

There have been a couple of threads at FR related to getting on the county steering committees for GOP party politics. It is a fairly easy thing to accomplish if one is willing to commit the time to going tot he meetings and being active. The effect is more powerful than imagined! When it comes time to put a GOP candidate up for primaries, it is the committee power that accomplishes the wishes of the GOP power brokers. To rid the GOP of the infection of rinoism means standing up for what is right at the county steering committee level. Again, as you noted, such an approach takes time and several election cycles to make meaningful change happen, but that is how the bastards running the rino party got it to this state of fecklessness!


44 posted on 12/24/2010 10:21:01 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Lazamataz; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
One of our best known Freepers has written an essay for us on Christmas Eve, well worth reading. And, very on topic: CWII ping!


45 posted on 12/24/2010 10:21:18 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Thanks for your thoughtful insights into communist tactics.


46 posted on 12/24/2010 10:22:23 AM PST by darth
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To: servantboy777

Our constitution is already DOA. Recently Republican senate leader Mitch McConnel helped pass the new tax bill. That bill should have started in the house, and because it didn’t it is unconstitutional.

Not one person in congress cared or tried to stop it.


47 posted on 12/24/2010 10:23:07 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Enterprise

I’d say he’s more like a VULTURE!


48 posted on 12/24/2010 10:24:20 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There is no way a state like Massachusetts and Texas should be in the same country. If states do secedes it is an orderly process, people don’t just run around in the streets with AK-47s. You must read way to many novels.


49 posted on 12/24/2010 10:28:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dick Bachert

I agree. How despicable that elected jackasses make it so easy, and lawful, for one citizen to prey on another in a time of grief.


50 posted on 12/24/2010 10:30:51 AM PST by Enterprise (TSA - The Silly Agency)
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To: Seruzawa
Now, how many advocates of armed action have actually fired weapons in anger or seen a civil war first hand?

Now how many advocates of peaceful reform have watched a ounce proud republic devolve "peacefully" to Constitutional Socialist Dictatorship?

51 posted on 12/24/2010 10:32:20 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tx_eggman
Nope. I think we've already turned the corner.

Excessive earmarks -|- TSA -|- unconstitutional Czars -|- the Fed printing trillions.

Exact matches to Line 1. :^(

52 posted on 12/24/2010 10:32:53 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! Â)
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To: Lazamataz

>>>We need to use the tools that are effective. I’ve outlined why direct violent confrontation is not only ineffective, but counterproductive. That leaves other tools. I strongly suggest we get busy using infiltration and education.<<<

Absolutely, my friend. The left’s progress through our culture was outlined a long time ago by the thinkers in the Frankfurt School and Antonio Gramscii, who said that the left needs to take over the social instruments of culture in what he called “the long march through the institutions.”

Well, their march is just about complete. Here’s the blowback: I’m a high school English teacher. My appreciation for American cultural values, limited government, and the Constitution are expressed every day. For instance, that leftist brainiac in my class just received a copy of “The Federalist Papers.” Sure, he won’t read it for another 15 years, but when he’s ready, the book will be there. My seniors read Solzhenitsyn’s “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” - not only a great read, and a Nobel Prize winner, but innoculation against the leftist thought they’ll be filled with at college. Yeah, complain to the school board that I gave a kid a copy of “The Federalist Papers.” LOL

My point? I’m making the long march through THEIR institutions. One of these days our leftist oligarchs will jump up and down and the floor will collapse under them because termites like myself are slowly eroding their authority. I’m not the only one, either. My 12-year-old son considers Al Gore a buffoon because of his portrayal on “South Park.” Every person wandering the radio dial comes across Rush. Consider Sarah Palin’s infiltration of the Internet. Or the character Dash in the film “The Incredibles” telling his mom that saying “everyone is special” is another way of saying “no one is special.” Or the ranking of “Atlas Shrugged” on Amazon.

You’re right about soft tyranny. They don’t have the guts or the strength to go to the lengths of Stalin or Pol Pot, which is to our benefit, but also to our detriment, since their tyranny is seemingly benign. So was a tax on sugar and tea.

My prediction is that one day the left will simply evaporate. When pressed to the wall, they’ll just give up, and then write weepy novels and produce sappy movies about their golden era which never was, and the rest of us will return to our lives.

I hope I’m right. God help us.


53 posted on 12/24/2010 10:36:40 AM PST by redpoll
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To: Lazamataz

This fight, sometimes hot...sometimes cold, has been going on since Marx wrote Das Capital. The fight will go on for generations more. One of the reasons we got a dim Congress and Obama is that conservatives thought the fight was over and got lazy. It’s NEVER OVER. Resign yourselves that you will have to keep fighting the Left for the rest of your days. Believe me, the Left will never give up and neither can we.

Always remember, the first side to resort to violence LOSES in public opinion. If you know any conservatives who are about to cross that line, STOP THEM. Dreaming about some final, epic battle to settle the issue is a fantasy.

However, I think you left out the MOST effective tactic that I have found: VOLUNTEER!

I have donated money, worked in campaigns, gone door-to-door, served as an Election official, gathered intel on vote fraud methods, and prevented vote fraud as a Poll Watcher. Oh yeah, most of you read my short book on how to prevent vote fraud here on FR.

One of the reasons the dims were CRUSHED in Houston in the last election was the non-profit group TrueTheVote.org They hit the polls with over 1000 volunteers and found numerous violations of the law. I served as the Republican Alternate Judge in a dim precinct and documented numerous law violations by the dim Presiding Judge.

You CAN make a difference without eating MREs and getting shot at.

I often meet dim activists when I am working at the polls. They are 100% committed to winning. They make serious sacrifices for their cause. Conservatives will only win when they care more than their opponents.

We must keep up the momentum from November.

What will each of you commit for the 2012 race?


54 posted on 12/24/2010 10:40:00 AM PST by darth
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To: central_va; Georgia Girl 2

“If states do secede it is an orderly process, people don’t just run around in the streets with AK-47s.”

As it is, I’d have to disagree. The last time it was tried, it was not an orderly process, and folks did run around in the streets with the 1860 equivalents of AK-47’s.

That being said, I do believe that state secession should be allowed, and there should be an ordery and peaceful (and somewhat lenghthy) process for doing so.

After all, we are, in theory, a free people.

And it has always bothered me that the US preaches to the rest of the world about allowing self-determination, but refuses it at home.

At the risk of repeating myself on this thread, a Constitutional Convention is needed.


55 posted on 12/24/2010 10:41:17 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right
I would instead urge an all-out attempt to call a Constitutional Convention

Sure. Then all the leftists can enshrine the social utopia right in there. We need to force government back to the written document and work to undo several amendments, the sixteenth and seventeenth for starters. IMNSHO

56 posted on 12/24/2010 10:46:23 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Dick Bachert
And what brought those regimes down? Millions of people refusing to cooperate any further. Tens of thousands surrounding key buildings and refusing to leave. People setting seige to parliments. We don't know how those tactics would work here, but again, using history as a guide they seem promising.

The MSM was horrified by the Tea Party and 9/12 rallies in our nations capitol, and went all out to lie about the numbers, organize counter protests, etc. Why? Perhaps they had good reason.

57 posted on 12/24/2010 10:47:37 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: wolfcreek; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

YES INDEED.

Here’s another series on such . . . 9 sections this time:

Interview with Svali—Illuminati Defector pt 1 of 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ-DkS-XOOM&feature=player_embedded#!

That last 12 segment one was about all I could stomach through for a time. I’ve not watched this one yet.

Crowly’s record with little boys was beyond horrific.


58 posted on 12/24/2010 10:53:17 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: TalBlack
Good call! You can not rationalize Freedom or the support of Freedom, you either are willing or you are chicken.

Secondly, all this comparing to Europeans and Russians, does not consider the love of independence and freedom born into most Americans. Those Europeans and Russians have a long history of subservience. That is not to say America could not be overcome, just not as easily as some here contend.

The progressives or communists or what the hell ever they are, are NOT spoiling for a revolutionary confrontation with us, they are hoping we will sleep through their sly behind the scenes take-over.

59 posted on 12/24/2010 10:55:36 AM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Leaning Right
As it is, I’d have to disagree. The last time it was tried, it was not an orderly process, and folks did run around in the streets with the 1860 equivalents of AK-47’s.

Ah, no that ISN'T how it happened. Your infantile understand of the first US Civil War taints your thinking.

60 posted on 12/24/2010 10:58:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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