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1 posted on 12/18/2010 10:20:40 AM PST by fabrizio
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Thanks for sharing! What a great photo.

That’s what I’ve always loved about Bush, while he had his faults and decisions I disagreed with, he’s humble and doesn’t seem to think he’s important. That’s why he’s surprised when people like this show up to see him.

Can you see zero if Ali had shown up to see him? It would have been all about the won and not the champ.


2 posted on 12/18/2010 10:23:51 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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Birds of a feather flock together...

I never bought Clay’s jive, but I did buy Bushes for a while.


3 posted on 12/18/2010 10:24:08 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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meh. Can’t think of anything good to say...


4 posted on 12/18/2010 10:24:50 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: fabrizio

I’m glad that Bush enjoyed the moment.
I’ve never had any respect for Cassius Clay, however.
The muzzie convert and coward left our country to avoid military service.


5 posted on 12/18/2010 10:25:04 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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Sigh... Forty five years later he’s STILL a draft dodger, but no one cares now either.


6 posted on 12/18/2010 10:26:38 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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I know this will NEVER happen but I continue to entertain the fantasy that one day we turn on our computer to read “CASSIUS CLAY RENOUNCES ISLAM - CALLS ISLAM EVIL”. Imagine the impact that would have? I know, a guy can dream, can’t he?


7 posted on 12/18/2010 10:26:54 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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When Ali was Ali I couldn’t stand him but I came to respect him after he retired. I was wrong about him. He was a great man who came of age before civil rights and being a white man I had no idea what it was like to be a black man in those days.


8 posted on 12/18/2010 10:26:54 AM PST by bkepley
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Cassius Clay looks as if he took about five too many shots to the head.


9 posted on 12/18/2010 10:27:45 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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Pretty slick!


17 posted on 12/18/2010 10:44:44 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Cassius Clay aka Gaseous Clay aka draft dodger


25 posted on 12/18/2010 11:10:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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Cool. Thanks for posting.


30 posted on 12/18/2010 11:14:55 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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I wonder if there is some meaning to this visit. He was aginst the Vietnam War but now visits Bush, the favorite target of the mindless peaceniks. Have his views changed?


31 posted on 12/18/2010 11:22:24 AM PST by firebrand
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And it should be noted that Greorge Foreman was very pro-US during the same time.


32 posted on 12/18/2010 11:22:42 AM PST by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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Dubya is a VERY likable guy.


42 posted on 12/18/2010 12:14:04 PM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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Not a fan. Both because of Ali’s proselytizing for Islam back when few Americans were familiar with it but also for the culture of taunting and trash-talking that he created which has influenced African-American athletes and youth in general to their detriment.

Before Ali, black athletes were dignified men like Willie Mays and Hank Aaron who treated opponents with respect. Ali changed all that.


45 posted on 12/18/2010 12:47:35 PM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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One thing about Clay; back in day...that still seems to be true today...Is you can never tell exactly where he is coming from.


50 posted on 12/18/2010 1:16:24 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the 3rd day)
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Cassius Clay put the dope in rope-a. I didn't know he was still with us -- and didn't care.

Bush was gracious as always.

59 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:43 PM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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I was a number one fight fan in the days of the old black and white televised fights starting 1955. I now have followed the studies in England on the human brain. Sadly some of the fine athletes I actually saw in the ring were found to have much brain damage. Ended up in care. The huge emporium there has thousands of brains for research. Boxers aplenty. I cannot watch it any more.

Now Ali did indeed make a sign to President George W.Bush at the White House presentation. He made a loopy wacky twisting of his finger right in the President's face. Was he suborned to do this by the crass anti-Bush brigade? This I do not know.

Did some research on his given name: CASSIUS MARCELLUS CLAY. The boxer changed his name to Ali. His statement was said to be: "I aint havin'' no slave name". Cassius Marcellus Clay was an abolitionist pre civil war. He was beaten unconscious at one meeting of pro-slavery supporters. Some "slave name". In another meeting he was shot by pros-slavery rowdies and took three months to recover.

At one time Clay had over a hundred hangers on and kept fighting, because if he gave up, their meal ticket would end. I saw on television his four round defeat of "Big Cat Williams". Williams fought, with surgery previously from being shot by a policeman in the abdomen. Clay was at his best that night. I take no pleasure in his condition.

65 posted on 12/18/2010 7:44:43 PM PST by Peter Libra
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