Posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:26 AM PST by RatherBiased.com
The Senate has just voted to end debate on a bill that would lift the ban on gays serving openly in the military, essentially clearing the measure for passage and signature by the president.
Lawmakers voted 63 to 33 to end debate on the current policy, put in place by former president Bill Clinton, informally known as "don't ask don't tell."
The Senate could vote on final passage of the measure as early as today but it will most likely happen on Sunday or Monday.
"We are on the verge of ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' for good," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after the vote "This is one of those moments in our history when we stepped up and squared our policies with the values this nation was founded upon."
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‘No military member should EVER be forced to live with a homosexual against their will’
It is clearly written gay and lesbianism is against His Word. Our government passes laws against God’s almighty word?
Woe to he’
Some cal that progress -I call them progressives. Some reference such trivial facts to bolster leftist arguments -I call them useful idiots.
It’ll take a couple years, not until the worst president in the history of the United States (except FDR and LBJ) has departed.
I have hope that cooler heads will prevail and DADT will be brought back. The Marines always win!
It CAN be done. California - Proposition 8 - overturned a law legalizing gay marriage.
Semper Fi
I see no reason whatsoever to remain calm.
You lost at the word “faggots.”
I am of the opinion that the views expressed by people on matters of homosexuality are strongly influenced by whether they have openly gay people in their sphere of life.
I think homosexuality is abhorent, but I also think adultery is abhorent, as is any sex outside of marriage; I also think anal sex is abhorent, although that is all the more common now in heterosexual couples.
So when I see some guy, or some woman, at work, or on the street, I would simply prefer NOT to know what sexual perversion they have chosen for their private lives.
But when I know that people are gay, I simply ignore it, and hope they don’t try to remind me too much. In exchange, I don’t tell them about my own sex life. I assume that somy guy in the locker room at the gym is gay, I know gay people at work, I’ve had other gay aquantainces. I don’t hide my belief that they are sinning, but I don’t beat them up about it any more than I beat up all the other sinners (which would include myself, and every other human).
The only way to stop it, will be to force congress to change the UCMJ and allowing heterosexuals to opt-out of the military honorably.
“No military member should EVER be forced to live with a homosexual against their will.”
That’s right, and there must be laws put in place to prevent it and these members of the military will have to be separated from the unit and there goes cohesion. Exactly what is the main concern of those on the front.
you can now bet they will want DOMA overturned now due to them saying they can die for their country but cannot marry in their state and you know what?
We’ll still have dopes saying they have no problem with their agenda because they know a couple.
They are already there serving.
I urge you to consider the alternatives.
So the indoctrination DOES work! Desensitize the youth to what is a perverse lifestyle.
Yeah, and I spent a lot of years working in San Francisco, so I do have a perspective on the issue. Sick, sick, sick.
It would have happened one of these days. With the way the younger generation, hopped up on NEA propaganda, thinks about queers and queer marriage all of this is all but inevitable. Doesn’t make it easy to swallow though.
The FNC and reporters are reporting from a “postitive thing” perspective.
This is not “historic” this is a blood vote that will live in infamy.
The ONLY viable GOP candidate will be one who can pass the do ask do expell homosexuals litmus test.
if Palin can’t pass that then she has no place in the WH.
“Open gays are going to find a hard road to travel. “
Perhaps you can answer my conjecture - will the most egregious examples just get fragged?
If you are offended, by all means feel free to take yourself somewhere else.
“If you look at the text of the actual bill; there not much to it. You just get one sentence saying that the particular law from 1993 is no longer valid. What does that mean, that the military will then be able to set its own commonsense policies about homosexuality? No, I don’t think they’ll let that happen.”
—And any time a gay isn’t promoted: cries of “Discrimination!”; Lawsuits; screeching Daily Kos headlines; protests in San Francisco...
sad but true
All well and good, but did you serve yourself?
I would amend gay "people" to gay "males". It is my unscientific observation as a current active duty Sailor in the USN that the overwhelming majority of gays serving today are female. I don't see gay men as finding the rigors of military service to be particularly attractive. Lesbians, on the other hand, tend to find the masculinity of military culture comfortable.
This whole debate over DADT has been centered around prancing, lisping "queens" turning our military into a haven for effeminate gay males while in reality, females are most affected by any policy regarding gays in the military. And while there are certainly gay males serving in the military, I know, I've served with some, there's a lot more lesbians.
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