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Posted on 12/17/2010 4:06:30 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Can a homosexual serve honorably in the military? Yes.
Can the Gay agenda and the military code of honor and discipline coexist? No.
The military requires uniformity. Diversity will destroy it.
That is the objective.
I do not understand how a conservative could have a liberal friend.
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if they homosexualize the military it will be impossible to just say “thank you to those who serve”.
Don’t forget wat happened after clinton imposed DADT doing away with do ask do expell.
I never read far down the thread before posting, and after I did, I saw yours...:)
IMHO, I think the repeal of DADT is the first step to bringing back the draft. Dems love the draft. It makes people crazy about going to war, thinking their child who had no calling to be a soldier might be sent to another land to die.
The Dems know that the South and Christians are much more likely to join the military voluntarily, looking towards it as a good career.
It’s different in more secular progressive areas of the country. Their view is you have to be stupid or desperate to sign up. As John Kerry said, people without options get “stuck in Iraq”.
Here in the South I see people join out of pure pride. Most of them I know are Christians, viewing it as a God Given patriotic duty and priviledge to join.
Will they still join, now they have to serve next to gay men? I think not so much. If recruitment really starts to fall, look for the dems to seek after a draft.
The funny part is, if enrollment really does go down, look for the MSM to wander around staring up in the sky like village idiots, and come up with some very strange ideas for the drop, having nothing to do at all with DADT.
This looks like something you need to weigh in on ping.
God hates homosexuality
Liberals hate God
ipso facto. Liberals love homosexuality!
There is a cartoonist (my favorite) with the last name of Ramirez ( who is on the FR "can't post their stuff due to copyright" list) whose cartoon concerning the subject of your post immediately came to mind.
“Once the buggery starts, folks will start leaving, and that will leave the gay activists in charge.”
The “gay” activists are already in charge! That’s why they are trying to force this abomination on us now!
Dear Senator Brown:
Before you vote on “Don’t Ask – Don’t Tell” you should be able to clearly answer the following:
“What does it mean to be openly gay in the military?”
By voting to repeal, it can probably be assumed that you are condoning consenting sexual encounters in the shower or the barracks.
It means that the gay lifestyle language and physical mannerisms may be displayed while in uniform and that ‘flippy’ salutes must be tolerated.
It means that cross dressing on off duty hours is acceptable when visiting social establishments on post.
And surely it means that any objection to the above will be met with instant litigation and possible discrimination charges brought against those in command.
Why else would this bill be necessary?
Mr. Brown, please explain to the American public how these possibilities may be addressed before you help democrats pass this ridiculous law.
“There is not a single institution in this great land that they do not want to tear down, demolish, devastate, obliterate, and annihilate......The object of all this effort on their part is power — pure, unadulterated power”
That is the left’s reason for existing.
On the one hand they replace our Bill of Rights, which were designed to preserve our freedoms by denying certain powers to the government, with “Positive Rights” (e.g., “Human Rights” or “Civil Rights”), which give abusive powers back to the government. On the other hand, they insist on destroying the distinction between civilian law and military justice. The UCMJ enables our soldiers to defend us against foreign enemies without being prosecuted by leftist lawyers.
Until recent years our legal system has allowed us to enforce laws in civilian courts and defend ourselves without destroying our freedoms. But now our left wing radicals have forced us to try foreign terrorists in civilian courts. This leaves us with the choices of either railroading Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (thereby destroying our basic freedoms), having to reveal secrets that are vital to our national security in order to successfully prosecute him, or letting him go.
Thanks to ending DADT, our military can’t even willfully look the other way to tolerate the presence of homosexuals who are content to just do their jobs without conducting “gay rights” parades.
Our States are denied the right to protect their borders against an onslaught of illegal immigrants and the occupation of border areas by Mexican gangsters in order to comply with the UN’s agenda of phoney “Human Rights”.
That’s the idea. To turn the freest and most creative country in history into just another UN run hell-hole by convincing us that freedom is impractical.
step 1: Open faggotry
step 2: Combat ranks thinned of patriotic, moral soldiers
step 3: Mandatory service due to insufficient numbers in the armed forces
Once you hit step 3, you can fill the ranks with not only people you’re nervous about showering with but people who’ve just finished 12 years of liberal indoctrination in the school system. Imagine having to trust someone with your life who may well be disgusted by the values you hold dear. On top of it, they’re there because they have to be not because they choose to be.
As I’ve stated before, the dna of the military could be altered a lot quicker than most care to think about. Pure evil has been at work on an ingenious plan and their patience is about to be rewarded. I truly believe we’re nearing the end.
And in 2012, once all the adverse data is in, we’ll vote in a conservative Senate and President.......and we’ll reinstate DADT: and summarily discharge all of the homos that came in in 2011.
Some will come out but I don’t expect a huge outing.
Many, like Joe Sestak and Patrick Murphy are married to women.
In general homosexuals have dysfunctional relationships with their families. Not surprising because their homosexual relationships are all dysfunctional by default.
Homosexuals have less of a problem assaulting ‘normal’ people they are inclined to hate anyway. Most lesbians hate men altogether, it’s very easy for them to pull the trigger on guys. Weak hetero ‘breeder’ women, not so hard to do that to, either. And these are people who can’t have kids because two of a kind doesn’t equal procreation, so they don’t feel that much towards kids except that perhaps at some point in the future they can mess up their heads and maybe give a few of them a rape and see if any come back for more.
Read the Pink Swastika. You will see how that turned out.
Quilted blankets ain't exactly why blanket parties are held.
100% wrong in my opinion. Destroying the military is only a bonus. They aren’t concerned with using the military to take over anything. They would disband it if they could.
From a 4 part review I did of the Don’t ask, don’t tell report (Sorry, it came in 4 parts as it was my first posting attempt.) Here is the section on the ‘why’:
“...The first thing to question is whether the report has any validity at all. The underlying assumption for the report is that homosexuality is an identity. Who says? It appears that the President, the Secretary of Defense, Admiral Mullen, the researchers for the report, all believe that homosexuality is an identity and not a behavior and a mental disorder. That determination is no more settled than the demand that global warming is real and manmade. If they are wrong, then the report itself is not only moot, it is destructive to the very core of the military by introducing and promoting emotionally disturbed people into life and death positions.
There is no agreement that sexual orientation is fixed and genetic. There are people who engage in homosexuality that later do not. If someone is in the military and is homosexual, and then isn’t, how can that be an identity when it is a behavior instead? There are plenty of parallels of this in the outside world. There is even therapy for people who engage in homosexuality. If that therapy helps a person become heterosexual, then how can being “gay” or “lesbian” a fixed identity? It can’t. Same sex attraction is neither comparable in numbers, nor equivalent of the normal of heterosexuality for humanity. Same sex attraction is a mental disorder that can be treated.
As for the politics of homosexuality in the scientific community, it is as politicized as global warming. Homosexuality is no longer classified by the APA or the WHO as mental disorders. But their decision is entirely political and not based on fact. You can research that one on your own as it is a completely different and complex topic. However, there is ample indication that those who engage in homosexuality have increased risk of mental and emotional problems. From the introduction of “Homosexuality and Health Problems”, by N. E. Whitehead, found on the NARTH web site:
“Summary: Recent studies show homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from psychiatric problems than do heterosexuals. We see higher rates of suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse. This paper highlights some new and significant considerations that reflect on the question of those mental illnesses and on their possible sources.
The American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its diagnostic list of mental disorders in 1973, despite substantial protest (see Socarides, 1995). The A.P.A. was strongly motivated by the desire to reduce the effects of social oppression. However, one effect of the A.P.A.’s action was to add psychiatric authority to gay activists’ insistence that homosexuals as a group are as healthy as heterosexuals. This has discouraged publication of research that suggests there may, in fact, be psychiatric problems associated with homosexuality.”
http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html I would encourage all to read the full article at the link.
So, while disputing the very fact that homosexuality is an identity at all and is instead a behavior, even when granting that identity argument, it still shows an increased risk of other associated mental health problems. Why would anyone wish to increase the participation of homosexuals in the military? The repeal isn’t for the existing members of the service who suffer from same sex attraction. They are already serving. If they feel less included, well that’s too bad. They understand the culture in which they operate and have adapted to function. They chose to contribute to the military. They have their disorder under control or at least hidden. By changing the military culture to endorse the disorder, the promoters of gays in the military radically risk chaos in the function of our armed services. The military has a standard of good order and discipline. Their mission involves life and death and war. Anything that degrades that mission is not a positive development, and open service by homosexuals degrades that mission.
So if it isn’t about the military, then why the push by those with the disorder and their supporters for repeal? Why the need to demand that the military allow those with same sex attraction disorder serve openly? It is because there is another agenda operating. This report, and the effort, has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with the promotion of the disorder across society.
The gay lobby has tied their promotion of their disorder to the Civil Rights movement. They are using the military to follow that agenda. The effort is to tie their push for the acceptance and active promotion of homosexuality to the desegregation of the military in 1948. The two cannot be equated as homosexuality is a behavior and being black is an identity. The moral component is also lacking if it can be considered at all in an age when all things moral are discouraged, disparaged, and marginalized.
This tactic is done without any concern as to how the military is affected. They couldn’t care less. This is about normalizing and promotion of homosexuality and the military is a tool to do this. If the military is altered to normalize this disorder, then there is little defense for marriage, religious objection, and individual states complaints. The push is all about the promotion of homosexuality in the greater society and nothing about the military or its mission. If a person wants to serve in the military it is because they wish to join the service and serve. They should want to contribute, not have the military serve them. What selfishness! What a degrading effect on the services!
That’s a pretty strong motive by a group with an agenda to be completely ignored by the press. On any story when a company or government entity puts out a report, shouldn’t the press question whether to take the report at face value? Or is there some reason for the report? Shouldn’t they examine the people writing the report to see if there is an ulterior motive? If the report itself is simply a lever to accomplish an agenda that is destructive, shouldn’t the press look into who is doing the destruction and why?
I mean, the report is touted as something completely positive and accepted by the troops. Then, Admiral Mullen comes out at the Senate Armed Services hearing with the statement that anyone who doesn’t like it can get out. I guess tolerance is only for ‘special’ groups of people. Plus, it is a pretty good indicator that Admiral Mullen knows the report isn’t worth the paper it is printed on, and the positive acceptance of homosexuals in the military is an invention by the people pushing the report.
There are over two million people in uniform that now have to face accepting open homosexuals as their companions in war, or get out of the service. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of consideration of their views. There doesn’t seem any consideration of the mission of the military, good order and discipline, or honor and tradition. So, before Congress forces this wrecking ball of social engineering through the lame duck session, let’s look at the report the press wasn’t interested in examining in any way shape or form.”
Part 1:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638468/posts
Part 2:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638470/posts
Part 3:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638473/posts
Part 4:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638474/posts
Why They Want to Homosexualize the Military -
Because it is better to rein in hell than to serve in heaven?
Aren't they worried about troops playing "frag the fag"?
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