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Military Jury: Prison, Dismissal for Army 'Birther'
AOL News ^ | 12-16-10 | AOL

Posted on 12/16/2010 3:49:01 PM PST by FS11

But Lakin said Wednesday that despite his questions about Obama's eligibility for office, he was wrong not to follow Army orders. He acknowledged that the Army was the wrong place to raise his concerns about Obama, asked to keep his job and said he was now willing to deploy.

"I don't want it to end this way," Lakin told the jury Wednesday under questioning from his lawyer. "I want to continue to serve."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; lakin; naturalborncitizen
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To: FS11

He sealed his fate in April when he chose not to follow orders. Do you think for one instant that he wouldn’t have been found guilty on both charges? His pleading to the one charge probably made his confinement considerably less than it would have been otherwise.

He made his choice, and it was principled, however misguide. I admire him, and anyone who stands by his strongly held convictions and is willing to face the consequences. I am very unhappy that it came to this and wish he’d followed other advice.

In the meanwhile, all those who cheered him on will go on with their lives, while his is in tatters (at least temporarily). Hopefully, after his confinement, he returns to his surgical career, and enjoys a long, happy, productive life. He’s shown a lot more courage than all the keyboard commandos.


21 posted on 12/16/2010 4:21:38 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: FS11

Seize the language. Lakin is a Hale_21, a military ‘CIC conscience objector’.

CIC is a job that has command of the military. Oaths are sworn by Congress and the military AND THE CIC to the Constitution.

What proof is shown and proved legally by Obama? None. And what has he NOT presented?

No discovery was permitted because the judge ruled it ‘irrelevant’. By what Constitutional authority was this decision reached? None. In what court has documentation been presented? None.

Absent justice is tyranny. How dare they do this. For their complicity will they themselves be adjudged.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 4:23:22 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: JoSixChip

This just sucks, no other way to describe it. But why go this far just to plead guilty, I don’t get it


This second group of lawyers sand-bagged Lakin....seems they were more interested in heling Obama than their client.

Lakin was toast whether he pled Guilty or not...he was going to get zapped because the military judge in this case is a bedwetting Obama supporter. Lakin should have went to trial.

The second group of lawyers committed legal malpractice. They refused to even challenge the charges. Hopefully Lakin will get better lawyers on appeal.

Lakin should have stayed with the first group of lawyers. He had a better chance of not being convicted


23 posted on 12/16/2010 4:25:35 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

While in some States that is true in other States District Attorneys have little or no control over the Grand Jury. In some cases the DA has been indicted by the Grand Jury for refusing to investigate other corrupt politicians.

http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html


24 posted on 12/16/2010 4:30:17 PM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

A long time ago someone said: “You can’t fight City Hall”


25 posted on 12/16/2010 4:30:38 PM PST by Ceebass
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To: FS11

Medical Dr. in prison while that sewer trout that can’t stand at a urinal without a teleprompter and podium attacks Arizona with his sidekick “cup” Holder.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 4:32:33 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior


This second group of lawyers sand-bagged Lakin....seems they were more interested in heling Obama than their client.

Lakin was toast whether he pled Guilty or not...he was going to get zapped because the military judge in this case is a bedwetting Obama supporter. Lakin should have went to trial.

The second group of lawyers committed legal malpractice. They refused to even challenge the charges. Hopefully Lakin will get better lawyers on appeal.

Lakin should have stayed with the first group of lawyers. He had a better chance of not being convicted

23 posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:25:35 PM by UCFRoadWarrior


You are absolutely right.


27 posted on 12/16/2010 4:32:37 PM PST by FS11
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To: humblegunner

“Like maybe voting him out instead of hoping for Harry Potter magic to make him gone?”

What a novel thought. And it even has legal precedence.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 4:34:18 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: FS11

He has become a true political victim. Whether he had envisioned the outcome is something only he can verify. Whether he is a patriot is for the future to show. My own thought is that he will become a beacon for others in spite of the decision. When events and time show Obama is a fraud there are many people who having sided for political patience as to Obama’s eligibility will also be wondering what could have been done. Of course there are many who will accept the fraud with satisfaction. It is these who must be held accountable no matter what government authority they have.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 4:38:03 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: EDINVA

Col. Lakin threw away his career, its accrued benefits, and (assuming this sentence holds) will spend six months in Leavenworth, and all his erstwhile supporters can say is “Lakin is done.” and let’s move on ?


If I am not mistaken (and someone correct me if this has changed)....Laking would serve his 6 months at Ft Riley (KS) in a “Retraining Brigade”. Sentences under 9 months are usually done there. At the Ft Riley confinement facility...it is pretty much “basic training” during your time there.


30 posted on 12/16/2010 4:40:00 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: noinfringers2

Maybe President Palin will commute his sentence.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 4:42:23 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Thanks for that clarification. All I’ve read in the various Lakin threads over the past few months was ‘Leavenworth.’ I guess everyone expected he’d do more than 6 months. That part, to me, is the brightest aspect of all this. Or least horrific. From what I’d read (and all I know is what I read here) he would have been lucky to get 18 months.

This whole thing has me depressed tonight. In all the civil actions, if the case was dismissed, it was dismissed. This is the only case where someone’s career is going up in smoke for challenging Obama’s eligibility. Well, except for Taitz, I guess. But her worst penalty is money and possibly loss of license to practice law; I’m not so sure that’s necessarily such a bad thing. She won’t be behind bars.


32 posted on 12/16/2010 5:09:35 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Oberon

He started his sentence today, so it will be over long before the next election.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 5:10:09 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: noinfringers2

Many people saw Lakin as a hero until he capitulated on everything that he stood for, pled guilty, tried to blame his actions on the bad advice of others, and cried in court, begging for mercy.


34 posted on 12/16/2010 5:23:10 PM PST by FS11
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To: Para-Ord.45
"What`s so hard about pulling out a long form birth certificate. You know, the one with hand written lines filled in and doctor signatures."

Why?

35 posted on 12/16/2010 5:26:18 PM PST by mlo
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To: combat_boots

This man was a true American Hero.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Hale

Nathan Hale (June 6, 1755 – September 22, 1776) was a soldier for the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. A spy for the Continental Army, he volunteered for an intelligence-gathering mission in New York City but was captured by the British. He is probably best remembered for his purported last words before being hanged: “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.”[1] Hale has long been considered an American hero and, in 1985, he was officially designated the state hero of Connecticut.[2]


36 posted on 12/16/2010 5:30:29 PM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

When it is shown he is right, what then???


37 posted on 12/16/2010 5:34:36 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: FS11

Yet I would bet that every person who says that Lakin was wrong would agree that every Military leader in Nazi Germany should have been hanged for following orders of Hitler. What’s wrong with people? Double standard BS!


38 posted on 12/16/2010 5:35:30 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: FS11

The Lakin situation highlights the struggle for Independence among men who had ties with Great Britain and those who really were independent thinkers and actors.

The military echelon at the top at really more Benedict Arnold: self-serving egotists who lust for power.


39 posted on 12/16/2010 5:40:37 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TruthConquers

So now he’s double-dog illegal.
That’s bad or at least it was several decades ago.


40 posted on 12/16/2010 5:40:50 PM PST by mcshot (The golfing dude's grandmother knows where he was born - ask her.)
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