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Atomic weights of 10 elements on periodic table about to make an historic change
Eureka Alert ^ | 15 Dec 2010 | Leanne Yohemas

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:23:20 PM PST by smokingfrog

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1 posted on 12/15/2010 5:23:24 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

FYI yourself. I’m not taking chemistry over :-)


2 posted on 12/15/2010 5:26:02 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: smokingfrog; Physicist; AFPhys; snarks_when_bored; Wonder Warthog; Robert A. Cook, PE; ...
Like, *PING*, dudes and dude-ettes.

Thanks, smokingfrog.

3 posted on 12/15/2010 5:28:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: smokingfrog
For example, sulfur is commonly known to have a standard atomic weight of 32.065. However, its actual atomic weight can be anywhere between 32.059 and 32.076, depending on where the element is found.

So, what they're saying is, the atomic weight of sulfir will STILL be "commonly known" as being pretty damned close to 32.065.

4 posted on 12/15/2010 5:30:48 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: smokingfrog
I knew they were going to do this some day...And that's why I dropped out of chemistry.

And astronomy...I knew they were going to give Pluto flak in the years ahead.

And Zero....do we need Zero?? They did without it for long time...

5 posted on 12/15/2010 5:32:47 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: smokingfrog

With the price of Au going through the roof, they are going to merge it with Pb and do away with alchemy altogether.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 5:33:26 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping. Didn’t see this on FR before.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 5:33:28 PM PST by allmost
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To: mizuki san

ping


8 posted on 12/15/2010 5:35:29 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Sacajaweau
And Zero....do we need Zero?? They did without it for long time...

Do what you want. It means nothing to me.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 5:36:33 PM PST by katana (Actually, there IS something wrong with that)
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To: Sacajaweau
And Zero....do we need Zero?? They did without it for long time...

We could still do without him.

10 posted on 12/15/2010 5:36:47 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: smokingfrog

This is extremely important because all chemical reactions are mass-mass reactions.

In stoichiometrics mass is everything.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 5:40:54 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: smokingfrog; glock rocks; SouthTexas; B4Ranch
My only experience with chemistry came in the spiffy little kit I got one Christmas many many years ago but this statement jumped out at me... the atomic weight of carbon in natural human testosterone is higher than that in pharmaceutical testosterone.
12 posted on 12/15/2010 5:42:12 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: smokingfrog
Vindicated! The mass of elements on the periodic table are based on a unit defined as:

an atomic mass unit or amu is one twelfth of the mass of an unbound atom of carbon-12

This does not take into account any mass defect inherent in the stability of a nuclei. It also assumes an isotopic mixture which may vary from sample to sample.

Point is, as a physics teacher I've had ongoing battles with Chemistry teachers as to the "proper number of significant digits" to use when computing the molecular weights of elements and compounds. I've opted for which ever one made it an whole number because the five, six or seven digit numbers were not necessarily that accurate.

I win!

Sorry, overly punctilious people annoy me more than progressives (people who think they are always right rarely are).

13 posted on 12/15/2010 5:43:38 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: Mikey_1962

Thank you!

This is really silly. Yes, some Carbon is Carbon 12, some is Carbon 13, that there exist isotopes doesn’t mean that you can’t calculate the atomic mass of the most common isotope.

Sigh, this is really frustrating.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 5:43:54 PM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: Sacajaweau
And Zero....do we need Zero?? They did without it for long time...

That's what my ex-wife said about me...especially the zero part.

Zero was invented by the Islamic Arabs btw.

15 posted on 12/15/2010 5:44:46 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“isotopic mixture which may vary from sample to sample”

Umm no. The definition of the mass of an unbound atom of CARBON 12, assumes just the opposite. That’s why they specify the isotope. This is so the atomic mass of Carbon 12 will remain precisely 12.000 by definition.


16 posted on 12/15/2010 5:46:54 PM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: BenKenobi
My point exactly, it is an arbitrary unit.

Please, don't be punctilious.

17 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:48 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: smokingfrog

What will this mean to the price of Apple stock?


18 posted on 12/15/2010 5:49:17 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Mikey_1962

You can say that again...

(and I still won’t know what you’re talking about).


19 posted on 12/15/2010 5:51:20 PM PST by smokingfrog (But what do I know?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Hey, it was either count Eris in or kick Pluto out.


20 posted on 12/15/2010 5:51:27 PM PST by Raymann
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