Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue
An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has pleaded guilty to 1 of 2 charges against him.
At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.
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Not according to the Governor of Hawaii, those records are sealed.
If I see the Milkman leave my house, and my wife naked on the bed, I'm getting a divorce. If I see a first lady tell me the presidents home country is Kenya, I'm seeking all records and impeachment. Its just that simple. There's no “fuzzy” line for me. When I get stabbed in the back, I don't ignore it.
“Sort of blows away Lind’s claim that the issue is a political question, if Congress isn’t even able to deal with it.”
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Your confusion shows no signs of abating, does it?
Congress is certainly able to deal with it, but the available means are different at different times. Congress has the sole power to confirm the vote of the Electoral College, and it did so, unanimously.
Congress has the sole power to impeach, and it is able to exercise it at any time, including right now.
And the Political Question doctrine has been clearly defined in Supreme Court cases like Baker v. Carr, which Judge Lind cited in her ruling.
There’s no point trying to pretend that these questions don’t have answers. They do, even though you may not like them.
I read somewhere he used a different name other
than his own to get into the trial. May be the
reason, but I have not seen the facts about his
apparent involuntary removal.
Just that easy, huh? Well Lakin thought he knew an illegal order when he saw it. But just yesterday he got up in court and said that ooops, it was a legal order after all. So if he can't tell then how do you determine legal orders from illegal ones?
Wouldn’t Puckett HAVE to “agree” with Lind in order to coach Lakin to “agree” with Lind - as a prerequisite for being able to plead “guilty”?
Sort of makes it clear why Puckett is toeing the Lind line. He has no other alternative, since Lind rules out any defense and the only other choice is to plead “guilty” which requires subservience to what Lind has said.
Lakin and his counsel HAVE to “truly repent” and see it Der Fuhrer’s way, or they can’t plead “guilty”.
It all becomes so clear now.
No. I've had some misgivings about Obama's refusal to produce the information, and some questions on what he's really hiding. If at the end of the day it came out that he was a fraud all along I wouldn't be too surprised. But all that has nothing to do with the fact that I also think that Lakin was wrong in what he did, and that he's getting what he deserves.
You should read the court martial of Billy Mitchell if you want to read about past Army intransigence.
” The defense may proceed with their witnesses. Major Hap Arnold testifies that 517 pilots have been killed in the antiquated planes as compared to 12 in the modern planes. There have been dozens of requests for safety improvements, but they have all been ignored. “
http://www.vernonjohns.org/snuffy1186/bmitchel.html
I apologized for those words when I realized they gave a wrong impression of what I meant to say.
What I meant to say is that the way Lakin’s orders have been handled are a stain on the honor of the military as an institution. The noble men and women who serve in the military deserve much better than to see one of their own denied his Sixth Amendment rights.
I thank God every day for those who preserve the freedoms of this country. There is no way I would actually spit on anybody - least of all those who have served honorably in the military.
I first asked if I could delete the original comment, and then asked if I could edit it to include the apology. I’ve not received a response on either request so I guess it just has to be there.
Puckett said what he said because Lind was right, not because he's "toeing" anyone's line. And, this is self-evidently correct to anyone with more than a remedial understanding of military law and American jurisprudence. Lind's ruling on defendant's discovery motions are free of any reversible error.
As I said to another poster, why litigate something you have no hope of winning, when all you would accomplish is further alienation of the jury panel. The guilty plea on that particular charge was the best legal advice Puckett, or any attorney, could have given in Lakin's particular circumstances.
Well, last time I looked, our military sees Obama as their commander-in-chief. Give it a rest!
And is it not also true, that neither you or the rest of us including Lt.Col. Lakin are allowed to have access to them, and that you fervently are fighting on F.R.for that to be the status quo???
What I don’t understand is how they can charge him with a lesser charge (Article 92(1) rather than Article 90) when he clearly disobeyed willfully - having announced it ahead of time.
USMCobra mentioned capital punishment, and that if it is a capital crime there is required to be appeal with discovery (did I remember that right, usmcobra?) Article 90 is a capital offense, and it seems like the difference between it and 92(1) is the issue of willfulness. So how does a person get any more willful than announcing on Youtube that you’re going to do it and why?
Ouch....that hurts???
What you fail to understand is that his case was getting no where after Judge Lind denied him the right to discovery as well as the right to call witnesses in his defense.
The only option left to him was to have the case reviewed in appeal as required by article 66 of the UCMJ.
There were two ways to do that, one would be go through the complete court martial process which could take several years (By The way the Haditha Marines still have not completed their court Martials)and the other was to plead guilty and speed up automatic appeal process
The military justice system is quite different from criminal or civil courts in that it does have an automatic appeals process built into it to protect totally innocent individuals from over zealous commanders who can sometimes bend the rules and regulations to achieve their desired results.
Judge Lind’s actions in preventing the eligibility argument from being heard denied Lakin the very core of his argument and the sum of his defense.
It was not her job to do so.
In all these eligibility cases there is a commonality.
No One can legally question Obama’s eligibility or access his original birth certificate even if as in this case the questioning Obama’s eligibility means a prison sentence.
If that doesn’t bother you in the least then your American soul is dead.
“What I don’t understand is how they can charge him with a lesser charge (Article 92(1) rather than Article 90) when he clearly disobeyed willfully”
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From what I understand, that’s not the issue.
The original “missing movement” charge carries the implication that he disobeyed an order to be on a specific flight (or with a specific unit). If he was not told to be on a specific flight — and only one witness said he was — then he’s guilty of not showing up, but that’s a much lesser offense.
The expertise/practical experience of the folks at that other blog will rise up and condemn them. It means they know the answers to my questions and they know that the lawfulness of Lakin’s order depends on the 4 criteria mentioned under Article 90 - including ii, which refers to the legal authorization to make the SPECIFIC order (in this case orders for combat deployment).
If they were ignorant I could excuse them - as I hope for(and have sometimes needed) people people to excuse me when I say something without even knowing I’m ignorant, which is why I usually ask people to correct me if I’m wrong or ask them questions outright.
Because these guys know the truth - particularly about the Iran question - and still put crap out there I get sick to my stomach whenever I deal with them.
The government picked the charges that provides for them adequate punishment (in their opinion) with the least amount of complicating problems. This is what the government always does.
I once had a next door neighbor who was cheating on her husband with a Construction worker. The whole neighborhood knew what was going on, watching the guy come and go for months until he got caught at the house by the husband. The husband could not believe there was an affair going on. They were just in the kitchen having coffee. What he couldn't see was that my wife took a picture of them hugging and kissing and showed all the other women in the neighborhood. They started to gather and watch the affair from behind the blinds, laughing at the show.
After getting caught, the Husband and the Construction worker became “friends”, and presented themselves to all the neighborhood as “friends”. Everyone in town knew the husband was a damn fool and the “Friend” was screwing his wife.
Looking at this Lakin case, I see a Con man who just put a soldier in jail, and the neighborhood is watching. You can say he failed to follow orders. But this is about a good old fashioned screwing. People know whats going on.
If Obama was born in Hawaii to STanley Ann Dunham, then why did Obama post a forged COLB?
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