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Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges
AP ^ | December 14, 2010 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue

An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has pleaded guilty to 1 of 2 charges against him.

At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen
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To: STARWISE; LucyT; butterdezillion; little jeremiah; mojitojoe; Danae; Jim Robinson; BuckeyeTexan
I would say that her hormones probably took command over her senses!!!

Married guys should know that that appears sometimes and then it's better to leave the room for awhile???

601 posted on 12/14/2010 11:51:45 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: Smokeyblue
"Even before the trial, Lakin admitted he had knowingly disobeyed orders. In fact, he warned his military commanders that he intended to disobey orders to deploy to Afghanistan as part of Obama's surge strategy in order to force the Army to put him on trial.

Puckett announced last week that his goal, under the circumstances, no longer was to have Lakin acquitted, but to persuade his court-martial panel not to send him to prison.

During the review of panelists, Puckett made a point of asking potential jurors whether they believed an Army officer could ever justifiably disobey orders.

Puckett's defense of the fourth count, missing movement, centers on the technical point that Lakin did not violate Article 87 of the UCMJ by missing the particular flights he was supposed to take from the Washington, D.C., area to Kentucky.

"Was there a duty to be on that flight?" the defense counsel asked the court martial panel. "To find him guilty, [the prosecution] must show he had a duty to make the flight."

Puckett repeatedly has challenged prosecution witnesses to show where, in Lakin's orders, he was directed that it was his "duty" to take the specific US Air Flight 1123

I'm very happy with the trial so far," Puckett told WND , though his client already had been convicted of three counts of disobeying orders."

From: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=239805

602 posted on 12/15/2010 12:13:32 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Non-Sequitur; mojitojoe
I'll bet I am.

If you are, you certainly worked your ass off to deserving be on it!!!

603 posted on 12/15/2010 12:20:21 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: centurion316; mojitojoe
Banana Republics do that sort of thing.

Honduras did NOT do that. Their SC ordered the President removed!!!

With george Soros as your puppet master, we might soon sink down to the woo-doo level of Haiti???

604 posted on 12/15/2010 12:42:25 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: jamese777
Well! Gee! Since it's all sooooooo straight forward why doesn't Obama simply release these common documents?

Odd? Isn't it? With a nod of his head all this could go away.

605 posted on 12/15/2010 1:20:04 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: joe fonebone
He got off easy.... as a deserter, he endangered his entire unit, and those that he was supposed to serve...he should have been put up against a wall and shot ( that is what is usually done to deserters )

Him and any of the SS men under Hitler who refused to comply.

You are looking at things through the wrong lens.

606 posted on 12/15/2010 2:18:30 AM PST by Bellflower (All meaning is in The LORD.)
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To: edge919
Roberts' resume is irrelevant. Hopefully the court won't be discussing that. / Definitely an irrelevant witness. We've been told repeatedly that Lakin WASN'T ordered to deploy to Afghanistan, so there would not be a doctor who took his place, much less his wife. If the prosecutor is admitting that Lakin WAS being deployed to Afghanistan, then they are admitting that Obama's authority over that deployment is indeed relevant. Lakin then has a legal right to challenge that authority."

How do you feel about your track record of advice concerning Lakin's case so far? Could you have been more perfectly wrong?

I wish those advising Lakin on the Internet would take my challenge: Refuse to obey any law passed since 20 Jan 2009. After all, they have never been considered or signed by a REAL President, and are thus as invalid as Lakin's orders supposedly are...then you TOO will have 'standing' when the IRS, etc take you to court.

Odd, isn't it, that the Internet heroes supporting Lakin never take up that challenge.

607 posted on 12/15/2010 2:51:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: danamco; usmcobra

Like others here, danamco has a perfect record of offering inaccurate legal advice to Lakin. Like others, danamco continues to obey the laws passed since 20 Jan 2009, because it is easier to blow off steam on the Internet than actually put himself in the same position as LTC Lakin.

When danamco puts himself in the same legal jeopardy as Lakin, we’ll see what he would REALLY do. Until then, you can trust this: danamco has been wrong on every prediction made about this case. And now Lakin has abandoned danamco’s advice, and is trying to minimize his sentence.

I think poorly of Lakin’s judgment. I think far worse of the Internet Lawyers egging him on. Both have bad judgment, but the Internet Lawyers are also cowards.


608 posted on 12/15/2010 3:00:50 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: mojitojoe
DON’T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spare me the courtesy horseh*t. DO NOT PING ME AGAIN.

Sorry. Courtesy requires it. A foreign concept to you I know, but there it is.

609 posted on 12/15/2010 4:19:20 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mojitojoe; BuckeyeTexan
LOL! Keep trying, it isn’t working, get a new tactic Mary, or is it Bob?

Confusion at to my gender wasn't something you were admitting to back in March. When I questioned you on the picture you claim you have, your response was:

"I almost posted it and other FReepers said it would get me suspended and the one that passed it around said don’t do it because he lives in your town and it would point to him. So, unless I get (angry) and decide to leave FR, not gonna happen. We are not allowed to post pics of other FReepers without their permission. Tell the mods I can do it and I might. You know they have it and you know what is shows, don’t you?"

Now suddenly you're all confused, again. Bck then you were bragging about collecting information on me, now you deny it. Back then you had a picture that showed I was a man, now you deny it. So tell us, Mo-joe, when it comes to the picture and everything else, were you a lying sack of grits back then? Or are you a lying sack of grits now?

610 posted on 12/15/2010 4:28:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bellflower
Him and any of the SS men under Hitler who refused to comply.

So...the U.S. Army and Hitler's SS are synonymous in your eyes?

611 posted on 12/15/2010 4:30:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jamese777
I think that having the wife of the doctor who had to take Lakin’s place in Afghanistan testify for the proscution at sentencing is “dirty pool.”

I guess in both cases it showed that Lakin's decision had consequences. For another officer it was another tour in the war zone. For Lakin, it was a couple of weeks in Hawaii or somewhere.

My hope is that Obama will pardon him.

ROTFLMAO!!!! Obama pardon him? Like that's gonna happen.

612 posted on 12/15/2010 4:34:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mojitojoe; BuckeyeTexan
I have no issues with Buckeye, much to your disappointment I’m sure.

I'll bet you don't call her 'dearie'. Still, I treasure our friendship and enjoy the stimulating debate that you offer each day.

613 posted on 12/15/2010 4:36:48 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lurking Libertarian

So you completely agree. Lakin is not a deserter.


614 posted on 12/15/2010 4:36:53 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Put a “W” in your column Seq, hats off to you.

Lakin failed and the Scumbag in the Oval Office wins and gets to drive us into bankruptcy for two more years, and gives us all the middle finger for daring to ask for his records.

So put a “W” in Soebarkahs column too, he earned his as well.

And put a “L” in the column for we the people who take orders from a dual citizen who hates our guts.

615 posted on 12/15/2010 4:43:03 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: Non-Sequitur
So when Lakin goes to prison, is it common for men in Leavenworth to take a beating at the hands of other inmates? I dont know anything about Leavenworth. Do you think they will separate him from others for being a political prisoner? It might not look good if he's killed after confronting the leader off the free world, simply asking for a routine document. Well, I guess we are not the leader anymore. We are now more of a Socialist Communist Follower nation.
617 posted on 12/15/2010 5:09:37 AM PST by PA-RIVER ( POTUS is a dishonest disrespectful POS who can't come clean with the Constitution)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, I’m not making an assertion. I am stating an opinion, big difference.


618 posted on 12/15/2010 5:22:43 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ron,

You are an idiot. Next time you choose to use such a large and bold font, you might try to spell the words correctly. Its Barack, not Barak.

All of the “birth certificates” that I have seen are forgeries, so reaching a conclusion based on “evidence” presented on the internet isn’t very wise. My views are simply an opinion formed from an analysis of what the most likely scenario might be. I don’t claim it to be fact, its just an opinion.

You are certainly entitled to believe that Obama is not eligible to be President because his father was a foreign subject. But, since that fact was well known before the election, one has to wonder why the issue was not raised before the election. I don’t think that the courts would agree with you, but until a case is brought, we don’t really know, do we.

Most of the birther arguments have become nonsense. With Lakin’s trial coming to a close, my interest in the subject is waning. I’ll limit my comments to the Lakin case and you guys can carry on with the rest.


619 posted on 12/15/2010 5:35:00 AM PST by centurion316
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To: jamese777
Somethings are not what they really seem.....

What may seem as fact to all those :
( ** The evidence that has thus far been persuasive in legal briefs submitted in Obama eligibility lawsuits are that the Governor, Attorney General, Director of Health and Director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii have all confirmed that Obama was born there. The Governor, Attorney General and Director of Health are all members of the “loyal opposition” political party to Obama. The Director of Health went so far as to declare Obama “a natural born citizen.” ** ) ....

is not so...


by a former CIA agent: Clearing the Smoke on Obama's eligibility .....

Is this not enough of a red warning flag to you to even take a moment and take notice ????

The former CIA agent makes a point and proves it, that ?
Under certain accommodations of the laws that were in place back in 1961, that in fact, that may seem to be a legitimate birth in Hawaii could have been a birth from another state, or even another country......

If you had knowledge of hindsight and you knew what was going to happen on the Titantic, and you were the ship's captain ? would you not listen to your crew that there is a iceburg ahead and take appropriate actions to save your ship , crew and passengers from a shipwreck ? ..... red warning flags are all over this for those who will at least take the time and take notice.
620 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:35 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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