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Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges
AP ^ | December 14, 2010 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue

An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has pleaded guilty to 1 of 2 charges against him.

At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen
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To: Smokeyblue

United States v. Lakin liveblog II

http://www.caaflog.com/2010/12/14/united-states-v-lakin-liveblog-ii/

More information here.

LTC Lakin elected to be tried by a panel of officers. The defense asked the judge to advise the members that LTC Lakin had pled guilty to violating lawful orders, and that his pleas were accepted. Neither side attempted to use voir dire to explore their theory of the case. Of the ten officers named to the court by the convening authority, nine had heard about the case; one expressed an opinion negative to the accused, and the judge granted a challenge for cause for that member. The prosecution did not exercise any peremptory challenges; the defense challenged one member, leaving eight. All are O-6s.


121 posted on 12/14/2010 12:02:51 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: STARWISE

pretty good.........out of the millions (yes, millions) of enlisted and commissioned people serving now, or have previously served, you managed to find 3......


122 posted on 12/14/2010 12:02:51 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: El Sordo
It should be interesting to see how they argue against the second charge.

Lakin probably takes the witness stand to lucidly speak to the military panel articulating his motives and actions, since most other defense actions have been taken away by the court.

123 posted on 12/14/2010 12:03:23 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: BigGuy22

I’ve done my homework. I asked everybody on these threads and everybody on Dwight Sullivan’s site regarding what in the MCM would make it unlawful for brigade commanders to deploy combat troops to Iran. Nobody would do a darn thing. The “experts” would not give me the answer that they said was so stinkin’ obvious to everybody. So I researched it on my own.

Article 92, under a) Lawfulness, ii. That’s where it is. The superior commissioned officer must be authorized to give “such an order” - by law, by regulations, or by the custom of the military.

There is no law, regulation, or military custom that allows a brigade commander to decide to invade Iran. That authority belongs to Congress, who alone has the authority to declare war. IF Congress had declared war on Iran, then the military structure under the leadership of the CINC could conduct combat operations there. The Declaration of War and the general orders of the CINC down the chain of command would be the authorization for brigade commanders to deploy troops to Iran.

But Congress has not declared war on Iran. They have, however, delegated to “the President” alone the authority to “use force” in the war on terrorism. If “the President” would authorize the use of force in Iran, brigade commanders would be authorized to give “such orders” deploying combat forces to Iran.

Congress has never declared war on Afghanistan. The same authorization needed for the use of force in Iran is also needed for the use of force in Afghanistan. Both would be fronts in the “war on terrorism”, and combat operations are LEGALLY totally dependent on the decision of “the President”.

If “the President” is truly IRRELEVANT to the combat orders given by brigade commanders, as Lind asserts, then brigade commanders don’t need to follow the stinkin’ law that gives only “the President” authority to “use force”.

If the POTUS is irrelevant to the lawfulness of orders to deploy combat forces to Afghanistan, then the POTUS is also irrlevant to the lawfulness of orders to deploy combat forces to Iran, or anywhere.

Lind’s claim is revolutionary. It takes the rule of law out of the equation and makes every brigade commander an entity unaccountable to either the command structure or to Congress’ own resolutions.


124 posted on 12/14/2010 12:03:33 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Hoosier-Daddy; Smokeyblue
"Obama’s first political prisoner"

Unfortunately, looking more and more like that's the case.

125 posted on 12/14/2010 12:05:05 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: jamese777
"e.g., a writ of habeas corpus"

And before anyone says anything about a habeas petition to the Court, it should be pointed out that Lakin won't be confined for nearly enough time for a habeas petition to be filed. And, clearly a habeas petition can't be filed once the prisoner is released.

For all practical legal purposes, his appellate options are foreclosed, at least with respect to failure to obey. The missing movement charge is a bit more complicated, if for no other reason than he's accused of missing civilian transportation. There's some wiggle room for the defense here - not a lot, but a tiny bit.

126 posted on 12/14/2010 12:05:43 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion

I was a teenager when the Vietnam war was happening and SAW our military being “spit upon”...literally. It left me with such a feeling of contempt towards those who would say or do such a thing. You actually had the gall to say that on this forum???

I feel for your family members that while you are spouting those words THEY and countless others are upholding your right to say it. YOU as an American can say whatever you want but remember this...words do have meanings and you should choose your words with a sense of responsibility. You’re the one who is ACCOUNTABLE for what you say.

I’m done.


127 posted on 12/14/2010 12:06:40 PM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Your reasoning is overly simplistic. You obviously have no legal experience in the plea bargaining process. I understand why you can not follow this very complex plea bargain with your limited knowledge of the process.


128 posted on 12/14/2010 12:06:45 PM PST by FS11
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To: Smokeyblue

“Army Birther” was used in the title?

FUAP


129 posted on 12/14/2010 12:08:45 PM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: jamese777

To: butterdezillion

Lieutenant Colonel Lakin could have simply pleaded not guilty, trusted a military panel of his fellow officers to side with him and kept his judicial options open to appeal if convicted.

You can try to deflect the blame onto others if you want but a Lieutenant Colonel who is a physician is capable of simply saying the two words: “NOT GUILTY.”

102 posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:36:22 PM by jamese777


Correct.


130 posted on 12/14/2010 12:08:53 PM PST by FS11
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To: Red Steel

Could be. Time will tell.


131 posted on 12/14/2010 12:08:56 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: butterdezillion

“There is no law, regulation, or military custom that allows a brigade commander to decide to invade Iran.”
__

That’s right. And any brigade commander who initiated orders to invade Iran would be severely punished for it.

Your point?


132 posted on 12/14/2010 12:09:43 PM PST by BigGuy22
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To: butterdezillion; Jim Robinson

Spit on our military? Have you lost your f***ing mind?!!

Just because you don’t understand the UCMJ, which you clearly don’t, doesn’t make our military bad guys worthy of being spit upon.

I hereby invite you to join your buddy MissTickly in leaving Free Republic.

FREEPERS DON’T SPIT ON THE. U.S. MILITARY!


133 posted on 12/14/2010 12:11:21 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Darn your overly simplistic reasoning...


134 posted on 12/14/2010 12:11:25 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: FS11
"Your reasoning is overly simplistic. "

My reasoning is based entirely on the Manuel for Court-Martial. After you've cured your possibly terminal case of cranial rectosis, you should find a copy of MCM, and look up Rule 705. It spells it out in great detail the steps that must be taken when entering a guilty plea, to especially include guilty plea as part of a plea agreement.

Did I mention you're an idiot?

135 posted on 12/14/2010 12:11:34 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: El Sordo

and my “limited knowledge”.


136 posted on 12/14/2010 12:12:55 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: butterdezillion

I’ve done my homework. I asked everybody on these threads and everybody on Dwight Sullivan’s site regarding what in the MCM would make it unlawful for brigade commanders to deploy combat troops to Iran. Nobody would do a darn thing. The “experts” would not give me the answer that they said was so stinkin’ obvious to everybody. So I researched it on my own.

Article 92, under a) Lawfulness, ii. That’s where it is. The superior commissioned officer must be authorized to give “such an order” - by law, by regulations, or by the custom of the military.

There is no law, regulation, or military custom that allows a brigade commander to decide to invade Iran. That authority belongs to Congress, who alone has the authority to declare war. IF Congress had declared war on Iran, then the military structure under the leadership of the CINC could conduct combat operations there. The Declaration of War and the general orders of the CINC down the chain of command would be the authorization for brigade commanders to deploy troops to Iran.

But Congress has not declared war on Iran. They have, however, delegated to “the President” alone the authority to “use force” in the war on terrorism. If “the President” would authorize the use of force in Iran, brigade commanders would be authorized to give “such orders” deploying combat forces to Iran.

Congress has never declared war on Afghanistan. The same authorization needed for the use of force in Iran is also needed for the use of force in Afghanistan. Both would be fronts in the “war on terrorism”, and combat operations are LEGALLY totally dependent on the decision of “the President”.

If “the President” is truly IRRELEVANT to the combat orders given by brigade commanders, as Lind asserts, then brigade commanders don’t need to follow the stinkin’ law that gives only “the President” authority to “use force”.

If the POTUS is irrelevant to the lawfulness of orders to deploy combat forces to Afghanistan, then the POTUS is also irrlevant to the lawfulness of orders to deploy combat forces to Iran, or anywhere.

Lind’s claim is revolutionary. It takes the rule of law out of the equation and makes every brigade commander an entity unaccountable to either the command structure or to Congress’ own resolutions.


Congress has repeatedly authorized funds for conducting military operations in Afghanistan since early in the Bush 43 administration. The last formerly “declared” war was World War II.

Lieutenant Colonel Lakin isn’t charged with violating “combat orders.” He is charged with violating “get on a plane and fly to Charlotte, North Carolina and then fly to Fort Campbell, Kentucky” orders and with “report to your commanding officer” orders.


137 posted on 12/14/2010 12:13:27 PM PST by jamese777
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To: butterdezillion

We don’t spit on the United States military on FR. Suggest you clean up your act NOW or go somewhere else to spit. DU would welcome you.


138 posted on 12/14/2010 12:14:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Have you lost your f***ing mind?!!

Are your uck keys broken?

139 posted on 12/14/2010 12:15:15 PM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Hold up... he pled guilty to “...pleaded guilty to not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not showing up at Fort Campbell in Kentucky where he was supposed to report.”

This seems to me to have a LOT of wiggle room in it.

I think this pleading was very carefully worded for appeal.


140 posted on 12/14/2010 12:17:01 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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