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Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges
AP ^ | December 14, 2010 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by Smokeyblue

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1 posted on 12/14/2010 9:26:04 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
Obama’s first political prisoner. Disgusting...
2 posted on 12/14/2010 9:29:47 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
I'm sure Amnesty International will be on the case posthaste.

< /sarcasm>

3 posted on 12/14/2010 9:33:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Smokeyblue
Those who advised him on to this foolish course should share his punishment.
4 posted on 12/14/2010 9:34:35 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Smokeyblue
So what happens to the second charge? Does he still go to trial on that one or is it dropped?

I hate saying this but I am going to guess that he pleaded guilty because the government has overwhelming evidence which backs up its case, and he is looking for a lenient punishment.

5 posted on 12/14/2010 9:39:04 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: kbennkc

You are exactly right.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 9:42:12 AM PST by spectre
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; ..
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At a court-martial proceeding Tuesday in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin of Greeley, Colo., pleaded guilty to a charge that included not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not reporting to duty at Fort Campbell.

Defense lawyer Army Maj. Matthew J. Kemkes Defense lawyer Army Maj. Matthew J. Kemkes, left, prosecutor Army Capt. Jonathan Kobrinski, center, and defense lawyer Neal Puckett, right, walk outside a military court during the court martial for Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, not pictured, Tuesday, Dec. 14, 2010 at Fort Meade, Md. Lakin is being tried for allegedly refusing to deploy to Afghanistan because he does not believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States and therefore questions his eligibility to be commander in chief.

Defense lawyer Army Maj. Matthew J. Kemkes walks outside a military court during the court martial for Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, not pictured, Tuesday,Dec. 14, 2010 at Fort Meade,

7 posted on 12/14/2010 9:46:28 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: pnh102

No. He is pleading guilty because there is no expectation of justice from the United States military. The best he can hope for is to just get this over with as quickly as possible so he can appeal in the civilian courts the fact that his due process and 6th Amendment rights were grossly violated.


8 posted on 12/14/2010 9:47:58 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

He got off easy.... as a deserter, he endangered his entire unit, and those that he was supposed to serve...he should have been put up against a wall and shot ( that is what is usually done to deserters )


9 posted on 12/14/2010 9:48:22 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: Smokeyblue

Look at AP’s “Saul Alinsky-type” of journalism. Never about fact, always about steering attention away from the Obamanation and his Kenyan birth.

Always demonization, never about the actual happenings in the story.

F AP.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 9:48:29 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
"Obama’s first political prisoner. Disgusting..."

Won't happen. We are a Nation of Laws. /sarc

11 posted on 12/14/2010 9:50:10 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: butterdezillion
"He is pleading guilty because there is no expectation of justice from the United States military."

Of course.

12 posted on 12/14/2010 9:51:35 AM PST by verity
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Per AP:

“Hawaiian officials say they have records proving Obama was born there and is therefore eligible to be president. But so-called birthers challenge that.”

Wow! This is the first time that I can recall an MSM report on the BC that did not frame the legitimacy of the HI COLB as factual and “birther” claims as “debunked by non-partisan Factcheck”.

I regard this as very significant. This AP report follows the usually MSM-abandoned journalistic principle of reporting the facts. AP reports that Hawaiian officials only “say” but AP does not affirm as a fact that HI have proved they have the records. AP reports that “birthers” “challenge” that without framing them as nuts.

Perhaps LTC Lakin got the AP reporter to read his brief and maybe pull back on knee-jerk affirmation of Obama’s eligibility. Perhaps this is further sign that Obama's protection is coming down and with the GOP taking over the House subpoena power, AP may be distancing themselves from the HI claims as a precautionary measure, lest they be proved to be unsupported by the "original vital records."

13 posted on 12/14/2010 9:53:14 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT

ping


14 posted on 12/14/2010 9:53:36 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Smokeyblue

If Hawaii has that evidence of a doctor-signed, witnessed bc why don’t they send it to the court????? Obama and Holder are obstructing justice. May all those involved in hiding his eligibility go to prison for life.
If you support Obama, where would you go to see his birthplace and donate to the hospital?????
You can’t. Why? No proof or something on the bc Obama doesn’t want you to see. Obama is a fraud. He is anti-America, anti-capitalism, etc.
Nothing passed by Congress will help our economy until Obama is gone!!!!!!! He hates coal, oil, himself,etc.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 9:54:52 AM PST by charlie72
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; butterdezillion; Danae; little jeremiah

ping...

AP backs off pro-Obama/birther-bashing framing?


16 posted on 12/14/2010 9:54:55 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: joe fonebone

The military deserted him. He went through the proper channels to find out the lawfulness of the orders being given by Obama, and every person in the military who had the responsibility of following up is guilty of DERELICTION OF DUTY at the least because they refused to even check into it.

I just got done watching “Valkyrie” for the first time yesterday. I know which character fits you perfectly. The one who showed unswerving allegiance to “Der Fuhrer”.


17 posted on 12/14/2010 9:54:55 AM PST by butterdezillion
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He is pleading guilty because there is no expectation of justice from the United States military.

But why let them win like that? Why not make the government prove its case? At the very least, we'd be allowed to see what information the government haves that proves that it is in the right. I still think my original claim stands, this guy has no case, and he is just hoping for leniency in sentencing.

The best he can hope for is to just get this over with as quickly as possible so he can appeal in the civilian courts the fact that his due process and 6th Amendment rights were grossly violated.

That won't go anywhere either. No civilian court has ever accepted any sort of challenge to 0bama's eligibility. It is highly unlikely they would for this situation either.

18 posted on 12/14/2010 9:55:24 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: joe fonebone

Buttercup thinks you are a NAZI.lol


19 posted on 12/14/2010 9:58:13 AM PST by verity
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To: Seizethecarp

AP is dead wrong on this though. Hawaii officials CANNOT say they have records proving where Obama was born, because the BC that Hawaii has is not legally valid. The State itself is forbidden to say what the facts of Obama’s birth are, because they have no records that they trust to be accurate - according to HRS 338-17.

The word that Fukino used was “verifying”. She has seen the vital records VERIFYING that Obama was born in HI. The word “verify” means to swear. There is a record in Hawaii swearing that Obama was born in Hawaii. To PROVE is something totally different, though it’s understandable that the AP would make this mistake. They should correct it though.


20 posted on 12/14/2010 10:00:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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