Posted on 12/13/2010 9:51:11 AM PST by Kartographer
A federal judge declared the Obama administration's health care law unconstitutional Monday, siding with Virginia's attorney general in a dispute that both sides agree will ultimately be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.
U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson is the first federal judge to strike down the law, which has been upheld by two others in Virginia and Michigan. Several other lawsuits have been dismissed and others are pending, including one filed by 20 other states in Florida.
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Via Twitter whpresscorps - WH Press Briefing
Gibbs won’t use the term “individual mandate” - instead refers to the “individual responsibility” provisions
3 minutes ago via web
G-d Bless Judge Henry E. Hudson.
Yes Virginia.
There is a Santa Claus.
(I haven’t checked all the threads yet, but someone needed to get it out there)
If its true that Kagan must recuse herself (and I doubt that because she never got involved with this case/issue as Solicitor General) Then a 4-4 decision would uphold the allelate court ruling. Thus, I hope that the appelate court does uphold Hudson's ruling.
Can anyone tell me if this means the bill is stopped; that it can’t be implemented?
BreakingNews ‘We are confident that the affordable care act will be upheld,’ WH spokesman Robert Gibbs says about Va. court ruling on health care law
2 minutes ago via breakingnews.com
YEEEEEE HAWWW!
OK.....so this is good......right? ;*)
I'm sure this ruling will be appealed to the Supreme Court...we aren't done with 0bamacare yet.
If the individual mandate is the problem, wouldn't that argument also ban any plan to privatize Social Security to the extent such a plan required people to make retirement contribution into certain classes of privately-owned investments?
Just thought of that because frankly, I think the battle on this kind of stuff was fought and lost with government-provided social benefits at the outset. If the government can do Medicare, then it also could do a full national health insurance program for all citizens. And if it could do that, why not the lesser action of reqiuring private insurance? At the least, that permits more individual choice/discretion than a Kennedy/Hillary-esque NHI system that likely woudl pass constitutional muster.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating that. I'm just worried that is the reasoning appellate courts may follow.
Finally, an honest judge. I guess there still are some left, but somehow they never seem to get the important cases.
The judge specifically decided NOT to impose any court restrictions on implemention - stating that the provisions he had ruled against did not take effect until 2013
Right, but is it stopped for the moment, or will implementation continue unabated?
There was no internet when they passed SS. It was promoted on lies and there was no communication channels for the people to dispell those lies.
Okay, thanks.
“No, they didnt forget they knew that things like the individual mandate are necessary or the whole structure falls like a house of cards.”
No, I think they just blew it. Of course we all know the bill doesn’t work without the IM, but they could have easily included severability to protect the rest of the monstrosity.
“Are you my uncle Richard...?”
No mental illness in the family I know of ... so no, I guess I’m not. Aren’t you the barrel of laughs. Do you need a /sarc tag after everything these days? Relax, tough guy, I was joking around.
Reality check ... nothing like that is going to happen.
2010 America (Post-American-Welfare-Police-State-Zone) consists of “loser” 2010 people. It is no longer inhabited by tough take no sh#t hombres from 1863.
Here’s the problem.
I’ll never comply. EVER.
You must realize that the rest of the monstrosity can’t work without the individual mandate, and the extra money coming in from the young and the illegals by coercion. That’s why they didn’t put it in.
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