Posted on 12/10/2010 6:12:05 AM PST by marktwain
Joel Rosenberg tried to bring a gun into the Minneapolis Police headquarters and the cops wouldn't let him.
Now Rosenberg is accusing the cop who took his gun of assault.
Earlier this month, Rosenberg, who says he is a science fiction writer and handgun instructor, paid a visit to the MPD chief's office to pick up some documents he'd requested. Sgt. William Palmer, the public information officer, saw that Rosenberg was packing, and asked him to dump the gun. Rosenberg refused. He insisted he had the right to wear his gun.
Palmer explained that a court order prevented him from carrying the gun. Rosenberg disagreed.
So Palmer physically took the gun away from Rosenberg and unloaded the cartridge. He handed it back when Rosenberg agreed to put the gun in his car.
Here's a video of what happened. Warning: all the action takes place in the first minute or so. After that, it is a deathly boring clip of a desk.
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We used to call this:
Armed Robbery
Using a Forearm during the commission of a Violent Felony
Unlawful Transfer of a Firearm
not to mention the clear and blatant violation of title 18 section 241,242. The Police are not your friends , they are tyrants doing the bidding of the Ruling Class. If it were me, A formal Criminal complaint would have been filed right before the Civil Lawsuit for Deprivation of Rights. But then again The jack booted thug was just doing his job and following orders, where have we heard that excuse before??
I went on a diet back in 1997. All I see nowadays is a lot of people that need to avoid McDonalds.
Same thing in this video.
“Rosenberg, who says he is a science fiction writer...”
Stupid author of this article. Joel Rosenberg *is* a science fiction & fantasy author:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Rosenberg_%28science_fiction_author%29
>>Using a Forearm during the commission of a Violent Felony
I’ve got an ulna, THIS IS A STICKUP!
Didn’t see a reference to an arrest. The firearm was returned when he agreed to put it in his car.
MINNEAPOLIS - Joel Rosenberg is a Minneapolis gun rights advocate and author of several fantasy novels.
"...Rosenberg later poked fun at Palmer in another video that shows him pulling a half-dozen guns and a knife out of his jeans, while wearing a t-shirt that reads, “I am not armed, please don’t hurt me.”
"He even posted an open letter to Palmer on his website, which said, “When you stupidly lunged at me to grab my knife and gun, you didn’t watch my hands. One of them was on my backup gun, the other was within an inch of my backup knife.”
“But police may end up getting the last laugh. They arrested Rosenberg Wednesday morning for having a dangerous weapon in a courthouse and contempt of court.”
Wow, the cop took the time to pull the bullet and pour out the powder? That's a thorough disarming all right.
Yes. The construct of that sentence is a typical sign of a lazy journalist, who is too stupid to research, or too scared to mess up his research and get something wrong.
By saying “says he is”, the journalist is certain that he got the facts right, since the journalist has a recording of the person saying that.
This happens all the time in election coverage. Rather than research, reporters just quote the two campaigns, even when they are disagreeing about something like whether a candidate voted for or against a bill, something easily learned by looking up the records.
http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2010033627
Case/Count Description of Charge Charged By Reason for Arrest Severity of Charge State of Charge Bail Information Court Appearance Date/Time Court Appearance Location
1/1 DANGEROUS WEAPON-POSSESS-IN COURTHOUSE MINNEAPOLIS PD WARRANT FELONY $100,000
BAIL SET BY DC 1/7/2011..08:30 DOWNTOWN Address
1/2 CONTEMPT OF COURT - WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE TO COURT MANDATE MINNEAPOLIS PD WARRANT MISD $0
1/7/2011..08:30 DOWNTOWN Address
Another oh, by the way, two days later she was robbed at gunpoint. Enjoy.NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
Minnestoopid cops. It figures.
I go to some bicycle races dressed as the Grim Reaper (black hooded robe, halloween scythe - plastic). Typically I would go to the worst hill on the course. The racers and officials, as well as some cycling fans, get a kick out of it. It’s similar to the Devil that shows up at the Tour de France. Well, at one race I was accused of assaulting the racers. The person was not associated with the race at all, but was a typical Minnesota ninny-nanny. And yes, the doofus called the police, who responded.
Yeah, I noticed they finally nailed him for it.
Over the years I have been summons 4 times to jury duty...The first was in Federal Court in Downtown Detroit,
The second was Macomb county court in Mt. Clemens (I was excused from sitting jury there as it had been less than an year since I had sat in Federal Court. (your not obligated to sit more than once per year on jury duty)
The third time was District court in Sterling Heights Michigan,
The 4th time was in Lapeer County Michigan (had a good reason for the judge to let me off duty)
Tempers run high in court rooms and I am all for no guns allowed in those area's...I personalty saw one fight break out in the hall way at Lapeer. (I was sitting in the hall waiting to be called as a witness).It ended up with a little girl about 6 being knocked down on the floor because the 2 women fighting didn't give a damn about the kid and she belong to one of them. Sure glad neither one of them had a gun...
Any one that has spent time around courts would be very leery of anyone toting a gun within the building....If you have ever watched the TV show on what really goes on in court cases and the fights that break out would be a fool to want anyone carrying a gun in those instances....It is not an unusual request....I have to say the same for going into a police station packing just to make a point....
It is not unreasonable to tell the person to lock their gun in their car.
Too many people looking for their 15 minutes of fame would do what this guy did....he was being stubborn and unreasonable.....
Notice how the badge-wearing moron appears to point the gun at the lady behind the counter when he is racking the slide to clear the round in the chamber.
“If it were me, A formal Criminal complaint would have been filed right before the Civil Lawsuit for Deprivation of Rights.”
As I recall, Joel filed charges against Palmer immediately after the incident. This arrest appears to me to be a blatant attempt to coerce Joel into dropping charges and the civil suit.
“Too many people looking for their 15 minutes of fame would do what this guy did....he was being stubborn and unreasonable..... “
This was not a courthouse and Joel was well within his rights. Someone has to stand up to officials who will not obey the law. The problem is that it is very difficult to get the courts to hold judges accountable for their illegal acts.
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