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BREAKING: Obama got all C’s and D’s in college and law school
HillBuzz ^ | October 10, 2010 | hillbuzz

Posted on 12/03/2010 5:14:08 AM PST by econjack

Edited on 12/03/2010 11:44:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Here’s a piece from Jennifer Rubin calling Obama out on the ignoramus that he is.  Rubin hits hard with:

He displays contempt for Americans who don’t agree with his flawed policies, in effect instructing them to shut up. But his arrogance is both unwise (these people vote!) and undeserved.

--continued--

Obama was a C or D student in college who was passed and promoted aggressively because he was a smiling, biracial, man with a weird name who more likely than not played up on his Muslim upbringing in Indonesia in all of his college admissions essays and other course work. That’s the sort of thing Columbia and Harvard JUST LOVE…so we can’t imagine he ever hid any of that. It’s what made him interesting to the academic elite…this little brown boy raised in the jungles of the Pacific, mentored by Frank Marshall, with that Kenyan last name.

They just ate that stuff up.

There’s a reason Obama won’t release those transcripts…or any of the other dozens of documents he spends millions of dollars concealing. Historians will eventually find them all, and one day in the future when all of us are long dead future Americans will have a better, if not ever fully accurate, picture of who the 44th President of the United States was.



TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; college; grades; obama
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To: econjack

Obama is, without question, an affirmative action president obtaining his current position from the guilt-ridden whites.
I’m sure he was an affirmative action student receiving the spoils of the pity and guilt held by his professors. By doing so, his professors have instilled in him a sense of entitlement.

No greater injury can be done to any youth than to let him feel that because he belongs to this or that race he will be advanced in life regardless of his own merits or efforts.
Booker T. Washington


61 posted on 12/03/2010 6:41:52 AM PST by La.daddyrabbit (Now that obama is in the spotlight, he's really showing his true color.)
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To: BohDaThone

Wikipedia: It is difficult to generalize what percentage of top marks correspond to each of the degrees of honors, given that the percentages or grade point averages required for each rank can differ from place to place or university to university. For example, at Harvard, between 4% and 5% of the graduating class receive summa, while 20% receive either summa or magna.[2] In general, degrees summa cum laude are relatively rare—often reserved for the top two percent of students at the most—and degrees magna cum laude only slightly less so.[citation needed]


I think magna was top 20 from this article. I also do tink they may very will have handed out green stamps in the name of affirmative action in those days; I saw it happen while I was in school in the 70s.


62 posted on 12/03/2010 6:56:19 AM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Anonymous coward
Different people will have different anecdotes about Ivy League schools, and I'm sure there's a lot of truth to all of them. My best friend as a kid went to an Ivy League school, and he was bored out of his mind. His exact quote: "It's much harder to get into this school than to stay here."

He skated for three years, did an internship in the software industry between his junior and senior years, then twiddled his thumbs for the duration of his senior year waiting to get his degree and work in the industry on a full-time basis. He ended up taking a lucrative position doing a job that he was probably well-qualified to do before he even finished high school.

63 posted on 12/03/2010 6:57:48 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I bet his SAT or LSAT scores are hidden better than H-bomb secrets.

LMAO

you're correct

the Norks and Eyeranians have all those secrets, they just don't have the right material to build.

Now that Wikileaks has fired on Hillary, maybe the Clintons will assign their vaunted intelligence gathering operation to finding some of Baraq's hidden records.

64 posted on 12/03/2010 7:05:12 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: BohDaThone
The LSATs were probably pretty strong to get in, even in competition with many other black applicants.

I have no idea what you mean by "many other" black applicants, BUT:The median LSAT for admitted applicants at HLS, YLS, and Stanford in 2004 was "about" 170 (I suspect "about" means it was higher).

In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

So, 29 blacks in the United States in 2004 had a score that represented "about" the median for HLS. They were competing against >1900 whites. Assuming that all 29 blacks and all 1950 whites applied to HLS,(and no Asians did) for the 556 places in Y1, HLS would admit 548 whites and 8 blacks.

Now, HLS says that 33% of entrants for 2011 are "minorities" - I don't have LSAT data for Asians and "Hispanics", and HLS doesn't make the Asian numbers easily available. We can assume, however, based on abundant other data, that the Asian LSAT mean is HIGHER than the white LSAT mean, so that the numbers -548 whites and 8 blacks - should actually be lower (because of the diluting effect of Asians). Say that 75% of the "minorities" are Asian.

The class is 556. 183 are minorities, SO, whites are 373. Asians are 137. This leaves 46 NAMs, many of who are blacks.

You must therefore consider that either 1) HLS admits (and enrolls) every single black applicant with a median LSAT score, or, 2) HLS admits many blacks with below median scores.

Either way, the idea that "Obama" had "pretty strong" LSAT scores because he competed successfully with "many other black applicants" is not supported by the data.

65 posted on 12/03/2010 7:10:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Obama graduated magna cum laude from HLS.

This reminds me of the John Kerry Purple Heart saga. If you can claim that the Navy gave out Purple Hearts like candy to one person then you could surmise that the Navy did it for many people. It cheapens the reward. I don't know if it is path we want to go down. I know a couple of HLS graduates, they are very intelligent hard working people.

66 posted on 12/03/2010 7:38:50 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Jim Noble
Either way, the idea that "Obama" had "pretty strong" LSAT scores because he competed successfully with "many other black applicants" is not supported by the data.

Thanks, I know how hard it is to pull one of these well researched posts together.

67 posted on 12/03/2010 7:41:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ConservativeDude
My experience is that a lot of these Ivy League schools are highly overrated, and that their strong reputations (the legitimate aspects of it) are really based more on their graduate schools than their undergraduate programs.

I am engineer by training, and when I was in high school I was steered away from "top" engineering schools by a professional engineer who pointed out that I could get an undergraduate degree at a state school and a master's degree at MIT or Stanford for the same cost as an undergraduate degree at one of those "top" engineering schools.

68 posted on 12/03/2010 7:44:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: central_va
Poly Sci...she had done well in high school, but did not get straight A's until her first year of an excellent state school; she then transferred to the Ivy and her straight A's pretty much continued, but she had to work much harder.

Another story, this time from Stanford: a guy whom I grew up with (he graduated MIT as a physics major) had a son who was also quite brilliant and graduated high school as valedictorian. He went to Stanford and almost dropped out because it was so difficult. He went on to graduate (and is now in medical school) but he had to work his butt off.

While there may be some legacies who get "gentlemen's C's" most kids who go to the Ivies work hard and are--for the most part--the top kids from their high schools. Especially nowadays.

69 posted on 12/03/2010 7:47:07 AM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: econjack
very few (if any) profs let students slide through simply because they got in.

Universities spend millions of dollars trying to recruit minority students. They spend millions more providing special assistance to keep them enrolled. Flunking minority students is frowned upon. Flunking any full tuition paying student is also frowned upon. State schools may have a different protocol.

70 posted on 12/03/2010 7:49:18 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Republic

You would think that just people who know they went to Occidental or Columbia or wherever and knew that “The President of the United States” went to my school would be coming forward with their own documents.


71 posted on 12/03/2010 7:49:26 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Jim Noble
Jim, while the LSAT's are a nominal requirement for law school entry, any law school can admit anyone on its own discretion.

Every year, every law school does! There is no evidence that BHO, Jr. took the LSAT. It is my impression that he was recommended to the Affirmative Action Scout at HLS by Percy Sutton, the consummate New York city political insider and hero of the Tuskegee Airmen. Mr. Sutton did so at the behest of Khalid Mansour, a former leader of the Black Panthers turned Saudi Confidant and "Investment Advisor."

Obama denies the report. But then again, the former Barry Soetoro/Barry Dunham also denied to the Illinois Bar that he had ever used another name.

72 posted on 12/03/2010 7:51:07 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool. It cannot survive the fools who vote for him.)
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To: henkster

All I need to know about how Obama did in school is to watch his speech and actions now. He doesn’t come across as well-educated by any means. He makes dunder-headed decisions over and over again. There is absolutely nothing about his words and actions that would make anyone believe he was highly intellectual if he didn’t have his cheerleaders in the MSM.


73 posted on 12/03/2010 7:51:56 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: ChocChipCookie
Few knew Barack at Columbia because he was registered at The School of General Studies. Although students registered there can find themselves in some of the same courses with the elite prepsters of the College, it is highly unlikely that they would socialize with each other.

In the first place, most General Studies people live off campus, have not the time nor the inclination to socialize with the College boys, and in my day, that was very much vice versa, as many of the General Studies types were decidedly unfashionable.

74 posted on 12/03/2010 7:57:09 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool. It cannot survive the fools who vote for him.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I am an engineer as well, presently practicing. Engineering is a much different beast than medicine or law.

Getting into a top law firm requires you to graduate from a top law school which in turn requires you to graduate from a top undergraduate school. The same can be said for practicing medicine at a top research hospital.

Working as an engineer at a fortune 500 manufacturing company requires you to be a good engineer. I work side by side with engineers who graduated from MIT to those who went to night school working as a technician. We all take the same differential equations course. The MIT degree will get you to the head of the line in your first job but it is your work and results the keep you in employed for the long haul. No one really cares where you went to school after 20 years of experience.

Law and medicine are different. Most people want to see Harvard or Yale on the wall when they are being sued for $100 million dollars or need brain surgery. It is just the way it is.


75 posted on 12/03/2010 7:57:52 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: ChocChipCookie

A few credible people who knew him at his various schools have come forward. Just not a lot!


76 posted on 12/03/2010 7:59:20 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool. It cannot survive the fools who vote for him.)
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To: ladyjane

I’ve taught at both public and private universities and no school wants you to flunk anyone. However, I never had any administrator try to tell me not to flunk a student if they failed to perform.

If I asked the students at the beginning of the semester whether they wanted me to grade on absolute score (e.g., 90 and above = A, 80 - 90 = B, etc.) or on a curve, they all opted for the curve. However, when I explained that meant using the bell curve and, therefore, 10% of the class would get A’s, 20% B’s, 50% C’s, 20% D’s, and 10% F’s, they always opted for the absolute score. It would seem that most students don’t really understand what grading on a curve means.


77 posted on 12/03/2010 8:01:08 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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78 posted on 12/03/2010 8:01:14 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Since that was my condition through most of my college career, I can assuredly answer, very poor grades.


79 posted on 12/03/2010 8:07:53 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: bushwon

The wikipedia article is referring to Harvard College. HLS has specific criteria (10% magna, maybe 30% cum laude; summas virtually impossible — one every few years] which are findable through their websites. [This refers to the time prior to their recent near-abolition of grades, aboout 2 years ago]


80 posted on 12/03/2010 8:09:42 AM PST by BohDaThone
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