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City to Deploy Ambulances to Save Organs
nytimes.com ^
| Dec. 1, 2010
| ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS
Posted on 12/01/2010 11:21:37 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: seowulf
I guess your body belongs to the government, not you. The individual mandate makes that explicit. You must insure your body, because it doesn't belong to you.
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posted on
12/01/2010 11:51:25 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Nobody ever thinks about the pianos...
what are they, chopped liver??
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posted on
12/01/2010 11:52:57 AM PST
by
GnuHere
To: seowulf
They could use the guillotine for executions and have a steady supply of organs.
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:00:32 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
To: a fool in paradise
Since we are all government owned livestock, I would liken it to a slaughterhouse.
They’ve been working for years to domesticate us so we’ll just march right down the chute without a fight.
Moo.
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:08:28 PM PST
by
seowulf
("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
To: a fool in paradise
Oh, that will come.
They will pick a un-pc “hate” group when the financial house of cards implodes, and then watch out!!!! Tea partiers and Christians will be likely targets.
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:08:28 PM PST
by
TruthConquers
(Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
To: a fool in paradise
Sometimes a true story, I’m afraid. If you get into a car accident, you don’t get to pick your hospital emergency room or your doctor. You go to the nearest hospital and they do what they think best. Which may not be what you think best.
And if they have an important patient who needs a kidney or a liver right away. . . .
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:16:05 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius.)
To: Free ThinkerNY; a fool in paradise; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; ...
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:16:17 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: gloryblaze
According to the story a donor card or consent from family is still required.
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:26:46 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
City officials said the project would be the first of its kind in the United States, though similar operations have been carried out in Europe.****************************
Oh. Well, if they're doing it in Europe..
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:30:38 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Free ThinkerNY
That’s how they’re doing it now. However, it won’t take long before what’s “voluntary” becomes compulsory.
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posted on
12/01/2010 12:40:13 PM PST
by
Leftism is Mentally Deranged
(Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
To: Cicero
I know quite a few people who take that position.
Motorcyclists are told to NEVER agree to be organ donors because of the temptation.
How do they KNOW the person has not declined to be an organ donor?
What happens when somebody would rather have a dead relative than a living burden? The ghoul waggon fixes that and eliminates the evidence.
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posted on
12/01/2010 4:21:43 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Cicero
what I find creepy is when hospital staff ask the patient to consent to being an organ donor.
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posted on
12/01/2010 4:29:34 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: wagglebee
Terrific.....
The first team to kill you and make sure you’re freshly dead.
The second team to harvest the organs to ensure it.
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:28:38 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW
Terrific.....
The first team to kill you and make sure you’re freshly dead.
The second team to harvest the organs to ensure it.
It’s a win/win situation under obama care. Fresh organs for the elite, and for the unwashed, no need to decide on rationing healthcare. There’ll be no need for expensive, ongoing or life saving treatment for useless eaters. No extended stays in ICU using up precious resources.
Am I too late to say...
IBTD - In Before the Deathbots?
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:31:35 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: a fool in paradise
They could use the guillotine for executions and have a steady supply of organs. HA! You're safer in jail on death row.
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:32:59 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: wagglebee
To overcome fears that patients would be allowed to die for the sake of their organs, officials said that doctors and paramedics trying to resuscitate a patient would not be told whether the preservation unit was waiting in the wings until a supervisor had given the order to stop rescue efforts. The organ team, which will travel in a bright red and white ambulance marked Organ Preservation Unit, is supposed to remain out of sight. Please tell me this is a really bad attempt at satire. Nevermind, I've seen enough of these ghouls and their bright ideas to know it isn't.
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:49:39 PM PST
by
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
To: BykrBayb; metmom
Please tell me this is a really bad attempt at satire. Nevermind, I've seen enough of these ghouls and their bright ideas to know it isn't. No, I can picture the first ambulance keeping the person alive just long enough for the butchers to arrive.
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:52:08 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Oops. I checked the thread and for some reason didn’t see your ping.
Time to lurk for the rest of the evening!
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posted on
12/01/2010 5:55:03 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
In the UK (IIRC) they recently made a law or rule or whatever it might be called that unless a person not only opts out of organ donation but carries the opt-out papers upon their person at all times, they will be considered an organ donor. And of course, the ambulance teams need to FIND the opt-out papers.
I can see the very believable scenario where they are ignored and the teams claim ignorance- they didn't see them, they couldn't find them, they were out of date, they were not properly authorized, etc....
Or that they do find them and the papers just *disappear*, with everyone disavowing knowledge of their existence, except the family who knew that the person had them on them.
But too late once they've done they're ghoulish deed.
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posted on
12/01/2010 6:04:17 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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