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To: exit82

[ Please tell me you don’t believe your post 16.

None of that is true, and the view you posted completely negates the need for Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. ]

The ultimate Origianl Sin, is the sin of dependance on others. We see this sin of dependance in full swing today don’t we?

If Jesus died on the cross to clense our “original sin” the one from the garden of eden, then why do people even get baptised to cleanse the original sin in the first place if it was already cleared 2,000 years ago? Seems redundant, doesn’t it? Jesus died for all of our sins on the cross, past sins and future sins as well.


31 posted on 12/01/2010 9:10:16 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG; exit82

The ultimate sin is sin itself, which can be described as the aggregate of specific sins such as pride, envy, lust, greed etc.

What we’re talking about is failure to obey God’s rules, which goes along with failure to recognize God’s supreme sovereignty.

Unless I’ve missed something, I would say sin has little or nothing to do with “dependence on others.”


42 posted on 12/01/2010 9:24:01 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: GraceG
The ultimate Origianl Sin, is the sin of dependance on others. We see this sin of dependance in full swing today don’t we?

Sorry, GraceG, but that is a serious error. Dependance on others has nothing to do with original sin.

The sin of Adam and Eve was their disobedience to God, and their desire to be a god themselves, as the serpent promised to Eve. That sin has been transmitted to all thier offspring to the entire human race, according to the Bible.

The transgression was so severe, that only the sacrifice of Jesus could atone for it. The sign of the blood sacrifice to come was demonstrated by God, in that an animal had to die in order to provide the skins for the clothing God made for Adam and for Eve to hide their nakedness.

Your views have nothing to do with what the Bible says, and are flawed, and I am trying to say that nicely. Such error cannot be allowed to go uncorrected.

57 posted on 12/01/2010 9:39:04 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: GraceG
The ultimate Origianl Sin, is the sin of dependance on others

The closest one can come to this being true theologically speaking is to say that the ultimate original sin was the lack of dependence on God and an attempt to be independent of God's will and God's covering.

135 posted on 12/01/2010 1:47:39 PM PST by Raycpa
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