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To: GraceG; exit82

The ultimate sin is sin itself, which can be described as the aggregate of specific sins such as pride, envy, lust, greed etc.

What we’re talking about is failure to obey God’s rules, which goes along with failure to recognize God’s supreme sovereignty.

Unless I’ve missed something, I would say sin has little or nothing to do with “dependence on others.”


42 posted on 12/01/2010 9:24:01 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: reasonisfaith

[ Unless I’ve missed something, I would say sin has little or nothing to do with “dependence on others.” ]

Dependance on others while a helpless child is not a sin, however aftetr someone has grown up and is capable of taking care of oneself is as it is greed fueled by envy and sloth.

When Adam and Eve were in the garden and didn’t have forbidden knowledge thery were dependant on God, but it was not a sin because they couldn’t take care of themselves. After they ate the forbidden fruit of worldly knowledge, and they still wanted to stay in the garden (enough so tthat they LIED to God about eating the fruit) they were sinning because they could take care of themselves, but still wanted to be “taken care of by god”. Their dependance on God AFTER being able to take care of themselves (as evidenced by their making of clothing) was a Sin.

God throwing Adam and Eve out of the garden was a mericful act of basically saying, “You are adults now, now go forth and take care of yourself”.


50 posted on 12/01/2010 9:32:35 AM PST by GraceG
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