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To: Baynative

“This defendant’s chilling determination is a stark reminder that there are PEOPLE — even here in Oregon — who are determined to kill Americans,” Holton said.


Not “people;” Muslims.


44 posted on 11/27/2010 9:57:20 AM PST by PaleoBob
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some posts by liberal at other forums LOL

Well, yay, this guy is a jerk and would participate in mass murder; but like several of these “terrorist” sting operations the past 5 yrs, would not likely have created the plan without being coaxed into doing so.

What seems to be the MO of these FBI “operations” is the following;

Some loudmouth is heard boasting in a bar , or on the internet, that he hates Americans and would be a Jihadist if he had the chance.
Someone within earshot calls authorities.
The FBI sets up an undercover operation and casually runs into this guy, usually of low intellegence, and over time befriends him and gains his trust.
The undercover “friend” suggests a bombing and lures the “jihadist” into a cooperative act of terrorism.
The undercover guys make the false bomb and assign the “jihadist” to be the driver, or lookout, etc.
The fake operation is carried out, and the low intellegence “jihadist” is arrested for attempting to commit a terroritst act.

This type of low-intellegence operation has been carried out several times during the Bush and Obama adminstrations; I believe at lease once in NY (Bronx) and once in Miami. It supposedly makes the FBI, etc. look “good” and appears as it they are stopping terrorist acts.
But, as noted above, none of these type of terrorist acts would have occurred unless they lured some jerk, albeit one with outwardly hateful HOPES, into THEIR plan.

It appears the only purpose of these operations is to feather the FBI’s own nest.


Bronxx’s point is that these people wouldn’t have committed these crimes if it were not for the work of the FBI. In other words, the FBI gives them enough resources and planning to make something happen. Without the FBI’s help, there would be no crime, or attempted crime.


46 posted on 11/27/2010 10:06:51 AM PST by janetjanet998
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"...a stark reminder that there are PEOPLE — even here in Oregon — who are determined to kill Americans,”

I don't think "even in Oregon" is valid anymore. Judging from the last few attempts it seems these guys are targeting the more liberal places and sanctuary cities where they get easier treatment, less scrutiny or suspicion and even public assistance with housing, tuition etc.

64 posted on 11/27/2010 11:17:35 AM PST by Baynative (on to 2012)
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